FSG selling Liverpool

Discussion in 'Liverpool' started by ewibe, Nov 7, 2022.

  1. newterp

    newterp Moderator
    Staff Member

    Jun 6, 2007
    North Potomac, MD
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    And I'm loathe to say this because it's more nuanced - imagine how much more we would have won with 1) no oil states, 2) Klopp being properly backed by FSG?
     
  2. Samarkand

    Samarkand Member+

    May 28, 2001
    But that’s just it. I’m pretty sure FSG never had the wherewithal to support Klopp as Pep is supported at City. Their model was always based around finding value at the edges not in the thick of the fray. And hoping UEFA and the PL would hold City to account via FFP.
     
  3. Wingtips1

    Wingtips1 Member+

    May 3, 2004
    02116
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    They were all in on FFP because they wanted a guaranteed return on their investment. They aren't in it to re-invest every dollar and win. They are financial investors, and there isn't a guaranteed annual return in European football.
    In the three US sports with established salary caps, the revenue is split between between the owners and players (50-50 in the NHL, 51.2 - 48.8 in the NFL, and 51-49 in the NBA) and that revenue is largely stable year-to-year with very little coming in the form performance related pay (ie, Liverpool will make 87M throughout a CL finalist campaign vs 52M if they lose in the round of 16).
    The Red Sox were leaders in 2020 when trying to negotiate for a 50-50 revenue split with the players.
     
  4. zaqualung

    zaqualung Member+

    Jun 17, 2015
    San Francisco
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    McGregor must have some form of dyslexia when he is reading his own bank account figures ..... :thumbsdown::thumbsdown::thumbsdown:
     
  5. hubbabubba

    hubbabubba Moderator
    Staff Member

    May 17, 2002
    Ann Arbor, MI
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Latest I heard is that a good friend of John Henry's, Stephen Pagliuca, who is co-chairman of Bain Capital as well as owner of Boston Celtics and Atalanta (Serie A club) has expressed interest in buying LFC. While his personal net worth is $3.8B, through Bain Capital he controls $160B in assets. Not clear whether that big number would matter or not, but if it did it'd be second to only the Saudi investment group that owns Newcastle...
     
  6. Wingtips1

    Wingtips1 Member+

    May 3, 2004
    02116
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
  7. Wingtips1

    Wingtips1 Member+

    May 3, 2004
    02116
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    #58 Wingtips1, Nov 11, 2022
    Last edited: Nov 11, 2022
    Saw he'd have to divest his 55% stake in Atalanta if he is to take over Liverpool - they are a serial qualifier for the CL, and CL rules apparently prohibit owners from having two teams in the competition (if true, what about Red Bull?).

    I met him last summer a couple times in Nantucket. He's a complete douche as a person. One night he was complaining about being rejected by one of the clubs on island - and later in the night I find out some of the people there were the ones who blackballed him.
     
  8. zaqualung

    zaqualung Member+

    Jun 17, 2015
    San Francisco
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    That would be pretty damn good news amongst the options........
     
  9. zaqualung

    zaqualung Member+

    Jun 17, 2015
    San Francisco
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    No offence mate, but a guy who "seemingly" - as far as I can tell thinks Donald Trump isn't a gigantic DoucheBag is hardly to be taken seriously as a rater of humankind-ness.... ;)
     
  10. zaqualung

    zaqualung Member+

    Jun 17, 2015
    San Francisco
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Simple- sell Atalanta...... the ONLY thing better about it than Liverpool is the climate....
     
  11. delaynomo

    delaynomo Member+

    Jun 1, 2015
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Ballmer and Ambani rumours.
     
  12. SamScouse

    SamScouse Member+

    Jun 1, 2015
    Toronto
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    secret lovers?
     
  13. Menace2Sobriety

    Menace2Sobriety Member+

    Aug 12, 2004
    Washington DC
    I’d take Ballmer. Seems like a good owner by what I see of the Clippers resurgence.

    Less so Pagliuca and Bain.

    I don’t know anything about Ambani.
     
  14. SamScouse

    SamScouse Member+

    Jun 1, 2015
    Toronto
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Indian billionaire.

    That's the sum total of my knowledge about him.

    Oh, and he is not as rich as Ballmer.

    So I know 2 things. :)
     
  15. delaynomo

    delaynomo Member+

    Jun 1, 2015
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Yeah. Only 9th richest to Ballmers 8th. Pffft.

    I believe Ballmer could buy Liverpool, give it to me and still be 8th. :)
     
  16. bayred

    bayred Member+

    Liverpool FC
    United States
    May 28, 2018
    If you got it from Balmer would you gizza tickets? We're your mates you know...
     
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  17. Menace2Sobriety

    Menace2Sobriety Member+

    Aug 12, 2004
    Washington DC
    I’d rather know how much delaynomo is willing to spend in the transfer market.

    Hey Jude :whistling:
     
  18. Wingtips1

    Wingtips1 Member+

    May 3, 2004
    02116
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    I'd take Ballmer in a heartbeat.
    Dude doesn't look at the Clippers as an 'investment' and just wants to win.
    Would have to imagine a guy worth 80B would carry that same attitude to us.
     
  19. delaynomo

    delaynomo Member+

    Jun 1, 2015
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    I can probably commit to signing Doris as a tea lady upgrade?
     
  20. SamScouse

    SamScouse Member+

    Jun 1, 2015
    Toronto
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    you heartless bastard. Molly has been with the club for years, and it's not her fault she gets injured so often.
     
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  21. delaynomo

    delaynomo Member+

    Jun 1, 2015
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Do you want the club to be the best or not? :mad:
     
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  22. SamScouse

    SamScouse Member+

    Jun 1, 2015
    Toronto
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    you're not taking Doris' wage demands into account.

    and, and, Molly knows every player's refreshment preferences, how they want the cup delivered, what temperature, the lot. she understands our system perfectly! Doris would take months to settle in!!

    I give up .... you really don't understand football at all.
     
  23. delaynomo

    delaynomo Member+

    Jun 1, 2015
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    My friend Todd Lasso told me that's not important for an owner. ;)
     
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