Friendlies Thread

Discussion in 'Women's International' started by AlexJ17, Nov 22, 2014.

  1. Thomsen

    Thomsen Member+

    Aug 6, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    New England coach though
     
  2. debzy

    debzy Member+

    May 26, 2009
    paris
    Club:
    Paris Saint Germain FC
    Nat'l Team:
    France
    Very strange indeed seen all French people with Italian origins....but I think it was just that broadcaster who is quite ignorant.....for exemple He should know CHI in Italian is pronounced KI, as in France we had a quite famous player of Italian descency called Serge Chiesa ( rightly pronounced like Church in Italian).
    So He should have known how to pronounce Bergamaschi...but for whatever reason he choose the Argetinian pronounciation which in Italian is Bergamascci....
    You should be ashamed of yourself, for your Knowledge Mo Marley not only had a brilliant playign career, captaining England, but has been a coach for almost two decades on club and NT level winning the U19 Euro championship in 2008, England only international title. It's disgusting that someone like her is mocked for her appearance in a forum dedicated to women football where she shoudl be praised .
    USA were humiliated only one year ago by France on their home soil......You are completely wrong if you think European nations are not making a progress.
    The truth is now you must be on the top of your game to win matches nowadays as the competition is tougher than ever.
    Denmark made some very amateurish mistake and got rightly humiliatedby USA just like huge mistakes....players choice, tactical formation etc... costed elimination to the best European teams Germany, France, England at last Euro.
     
  3. Bauser

    Bauser Member+

    Dec 23, 2000
    Norway
    Club:
    Fredrikstad FK
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  4. 59Amerinorsk

    59Amerinorsk Member

    Chicago Red Stars
    Norway
    Mar 31, 2017
     
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  5. 59Amerinorsk

    59Amerinorsk Member

    Chicago Red Stars
    Norway
    Mar 31, 2017
    sorry I did not do the quote right but my message should still show :oops:
     
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  6. 59Amerinorsk

    59Amerinorsk Member

    Chicago Red Stars
    Norway
    Mar 31, 2017
    OKAY - Here is my response to hotjam2 comment calling the NWT, Trump:
    While I understand why you say this (poor Norwegian Prime Minster had to ensure the T-rump clown show) , I do not believe the Norwegian people consider this comment flattering nor even funny (unless you meant it to be nasty :unsure:) nor would T-rump make the racist comment had he known Norway is more like Massachusetts than Oklahoma (no offense to Oklahoma progressives!), society-wise. Just saying :p:rolleyes:
     
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  7. 59Amerinorsk

    59Amerinorsk Member

    Chicago Red Stars
    Norway
    Mar 31, 2017
    :p oh, boy! Meant to use the word "endure" not "ensure" in my post, above.
     
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  8. blissett

    blissett Member+

    Aug 20, 2011
    Italy
    Club:
    --other--
    Nat'l Team:
    --other--
    Well, you anyway broke a record, by using 4 posts to make a single comment! :laugh:
     
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  9. hotjam2

    hotjam2 Member+

    Nov 23, 2012
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    I was going just with something Trump said & having fun with it, though can't exactly quote since he denies ever saying it, but from 2nd hand accounts it was along the lines of

    why do we have immigrants from shit hole countries when they should be coming from Norway

    this was all forgotten the next day when Trump added another controversy when he said(this is quote, unqoute)

    women shouldn't have babies in their 9th month of pregnancy

    this was all forgotten next day when a pretty much confirmed story leaked out that he paid hush money to a porn star to keep quiet of their affair

    which was all forgotten next day due............................
     
  10. hotjam2

    hotjam2 Member+

    Nov 23, 2012
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    I totally agree with you. Guess pro club soccer is the next frontier/ or at least supported by wealthier male clubs. But at the same time, hurting chances for stronger NT's(as pro club is not all that competitive/hence OL domination) It's a shame that smaller countries NT's can't make more pf a profit. Here in the states the huge TV ratings from way back in the 1999 WC ensures that TV channels can charge higher advertising rates, which in turn our soccer federation can charge higher for tv rights.

    I would still say Germany is Europe's best chance if Jones continues how she played vs France. In Popp, finally a world class center that even Neid was missing during those horrid, Sasic years, so hopefully she's settled now in the lone striker position(instead being moved everywhere but loose. And also credo's to Huth who finally got behind those long balls trademarked at Turbine(though perhaps credited to Maro's switch to right-DM?) And finally heads up to my girl ,Linda Dallmann who got an amazing 8 tackles as AM, and that was going up against the much hyped Henry at DM. Should be a great contest when/if Dallmann takes on what I think now is the best DM in the world in Julie Ertz(sooo much better than the previous US DM, Morgan Brian). Dallmann is unbeaten against the US, as the only game she played them was the 2014 u20 when she came in as sub a turned 0-0 tie into a win within minutes.
    But worry some would be Jones, playing it from the back(which she has), ala Denmark just did $ especially passing it to Peter, lol. But if you look at FIFA's current rankings, the #1, #4, #5 NT's as well as #3 under Sampson, play a sort of hybrid, high or full press which is what the rest of the world is heading to. It's really conditioning over talent. Most Americans feel Australia #1.Yet we know two of their main players, Van Egmond & Kellond-Knight, can't even start on the more technical merit, Bundesliga teams
     
  11. hotjam2

    hotjam2 Member+

    Nov 23, 2012
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    yep, they just announced Phil Neville as head coach
    http://www.bbc.com/sport/football/42709928

    all ready England's women libbers are in an uproar!. But the truth been told, Mo Marley lost one friendly vs France's mostly B?firs cappers & a unconvincing win 4-0 win over Borat's old country(Silvie Neifdbeat them 17-0 few years back)
     
  12. shlj

    shlj Member+

    Apr 16, 2007
    London
    Club:
    FC Nantes
    Nat'l Team:
    France
    Apples oranges compared again...
     
  13. Thomsen

    Thomsen Member+

    Aug 6, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    i agree Germany's Europe's best chance as well with France in transition and England not having the same talent pool as Germany/France + new coach. The deal is that Germany won't ever be competitive with Jones as the coach. Hotjam, you are giving her credits for a game where France sucked ass. Yes she did some tactical stuff right with moving Popp up front but the fact that she's still playing Babett Schlecht and not Elsig is ridiculous and confirms what a poor coach she is
     
  14. Batfink

    Batfink Member+

    May 23, 2010
    Attilan
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    LOL, I'm not going along with the agenda led delusion here. Denmark didn't simply make unusually amateurish mistakes vs the US, allowing the US to take advantage of various factors Euro sides supposedly faced for the first time during European Championships.

    No, just like I said in my post Euro predictions, the Netherlands or Denmark playing the US after the Euro's ended EXACTLY as I said it would. No agenda, no delusion, no bias. Meaning a lot of things took place during the Euro's, but with everything I saw, progress... really wasn't one of them.

    So acknowledging the long past of highly pointless encounters we've personally had around this place, I won't waste anymore time talking about other Euro wnt's outside of Germany; but think on this... with ZERO positive correlation towards eventual tournament progression, you may want to rethink the true value and significance or France beating the US a few times during friendly matches last year.
     
  15. Batfink

    Batfink Member+

    May 23, 2010
    Attilan
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    #565 Batfink, Jan 24, 2018
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    For it's long time stability in the face of wide spread amateurism, the old establishment of nations having one or two clubs providing professionalism for their wnt players was a really positive thing.

    But in the modern era of men's football opening it's doors and wallets to the female side of the sport, I can't help but think certain senior wnt's gradually losing access to the older player selection model, has negatively affected their short term results during a coming period that will probably be a prolonged process of major transition.

    I mean to avoid any resentment here, I won't talk about Lyon, PSG, and France; but the change of Frankfurt and Potsdam being the top two destinations for German wnt players, remains a big deal in a league competition the nations best domestic performers, can now be seen playing for teams outside the UCL.
     
  16. Batfink

    Batfink Member+

    May 23, 2010
    Attilan
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    #566 Batfink, Jan 24, 2018
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    HA!!! If the DFB allows Neid to oversee anymore of this, it will only get worse, not better. And highlighting what I've already mentioned in the German wnt forum, after Kulig and Garefrekes become coaches at Frankfurt, I'm pretty sure the DFB's also announced it's new plan to accelerate it's production of more elite female coaches too.

    Meaning the DFB 100% knows the last friendly it's wnt played was nonsense, and continues trying to find other ways of circumventing the current order, hoping one day soon it will fix the atrocious performances that have lead to people not even bothering to go to the stadiums and watch the women play anymore.
    I personally believe Van Egmond a significantly more talented player than Bernauer or Gunnarsdottir, and I'm thinking long time regular Kellond-Knight is only being kept out of her team by Wälti (Potsdam's long time captain) and an in form Zadrazil.

    So right now, I don't see the thought Australia possibly being the best team in the world to be a crazy one... but I definitely know the Euro sides have a lot of work to do if they honestly hope to become viable contenders for WC winners anytime soon.
     
  17. debzy

    debzy Member+

    May 26, 2009
    paris
    Club:
    Paris Saint Germain FC
    Nat'l Team:
    France
    @Batfink So according to you an increasing number of full professional clubs is detrimental to the best European NTo_O....I thought I heard it all but some people never ceases to amaze me.....knowing you is pointless to debate on some lost argument so let's just wait the SBC in March and see if USA is far more superior than England, France and Germany as you are so convinced.....:whistling:
     
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  18. hotjam2

    hotjam2 Member+

    Nov 23, 2012
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    well you never know if Ellis will go to full experimental mode like last year at SBC, Thanks to winning the WC, she seems to be unfireable, no matter how bad she coaches

    from reading wider forums, Diacre has quietly spoke of her displeasure with Lyon's hiring foreign superstars & not giving more playing time to France promising younger players

    Claire Lavogez made it very public about her spending too much time on Lyon's bench

    England hiring of Neville(who's never been a head coach before) after the coaches of the big 3 clubs(Arsenal, Cheslea & Man City) turned down the job kinda of confirms that club soccer is becoming more significantly bigger than the NT
     
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  19. Juanele

    Juanele Member+

    Aug 4, 1999
    Colorado, US
    So it's following the same pattern as the mens game. National Teams never get the best coaches
     
  20. hotjam2

    hotjam2 Member+

    Nov 23, 2012
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    another outstanding graduate of Babette Shlecht's school of defending; the Dutch #17 at the 2.30 mark of this video


    and her subsidiary school. Babette's Fine Art of Goalkeeping(3.35 mark) lesson 101; short punt it to open. opposing fwd
     
  21. Thomsen

    Thomsen Member+

    Aug 6, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Peterlism: a defensive player in football who doesn’t possess any skills but creating chaos in own defense and conceding plenty of goals due to poor defending
     
  22. hotjam2

    hotjam2 Member+

    Nov 23, 2012
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    com'n, she's the main star of Stefi's video on brilliant coaching; 1st lesson) have your fav CB(the masked #5) be WAY out of position for the next two goals(1.55 mark of vid)
     
  23. Thomsen

    Thomsen Member+

    Aug 6, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    #573 Thomsen, Jan 28, 2018
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    her captaining Germany must have been embarassing for the football nation Germany, a complete FAILURE leading to a loss against Iceland lol and looks around herself wondering why they concede goals when she’s way out of position as you said

    speed as a snail, zero football iq, doesn’t know how to position herself, can’t pass good balls to midfield, all in all a very poor footballer being a sure starter in Steffi’s team because she’s what?? accomplished trophies and titles by sitting on the bench or her way talented team mates doing the job for her? this experience shit of her is bullshit when she’s conceded hundreds of goals for NT and Wolfsburg

    only reason i can find when such a talentless player is a regular for germany is a strong strong relationship with the coach... We all know that Steffi is lesbian hmmm... Just kidding

    that the likes of Elsig and Demann have to sit on the bench and watch Peter and Henning when she was around is scary in a way.. Demann's been played as a DM but she's not good at it
     
  24. Batfink

    Batfink Member+

    May 23, 2010
    Attilan
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    #574 Batfink, Jan 28, 2018
    Last edited: Jan 28, 2018
    [​IMG] ... No....
    I'm speaking to the older system of the German wnt finding close to 95% of it's players from two clubs (Frankfurt & Potsdam), forming a protective barrier against the long held apathy and amateurism of the DFB's attitude towards it's women's program.

    And it's now without this protective barrier that everybody can finally see what this widespread amateurism leads to when truly insightful player assessment, and a high quality of coaching, really aren't in place to continue the tradition of building strong national teams.

    See, to make this point more simple to understand, it's as if the old German/European system of club football was the close equivalent of the North American national contract system; this where national level players would all get to train and play together most of the year within a club like atmosphere whenever international matches couldn't be played.

    So it's once the larger financial push of male clubs entered the scene that the new improved standards of female professionalism got to rise throughout more of the league, but eventually lead to the top clubs recruiting larger numbers of non domestic talent, allowing/forcing the nations future domestic stars to play outside the nations two most professional/wealthy clubs.
     
  25. Batfink

    Batfink Member+

    May 23, 2010
    Attilan
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    The idea a club like Freiburg would ever be equals to a Frankfurt or Potsdam in professionalism, and national level talent, would have sounded ludicrous years ago, and yet... we're in 2018 with the Bundesliga's top two clubs barely possessing more than two in from national players.

    An influx of foreign signings, and influx of quality young domestic talents being spread throughout more teams, and top clubs around the continent showcasing equal or superior coaching and training conditions than Europe's most established national teams.

    These are real issues I don't think Germany honestly foresaw happening anytime soon, and looking at the Euro's I genuinely feel like Germany aren't the only women's senior team going to find themselves stuck in this same predicament either.
     

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