Four Hurdles to the goal: WC2018

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  1. Brilliant Dutch

    Brilliant Dutch Member+

    Ajax
    Netherlands
    Oct 14, 2013
    Amsterdam, Holland
    Nat'l Team:
    Netherlands
    #651 Brilliant Dutch, Oct 10, 2017
    No, heaven forbid.

    Why not sub Robben??
     
  2. feyenoordsoccerfan

    feyenoordsoccerfan Member+

    Jan 5, 2006
    Dragon's den, Rotterdam Netherlands
    #652 feyenoordsoccerfan, Oct 10, 2017
    Just saw another lateral pass in the defense where a deep pass on the right flank set 5 Swedes before the ball, so the attack would have less bodies to cope with, but the Ajax pass was chosen:rolleyes:
     
  3. Brilliant Dutch

    Brilliant Dutch Member+

    Ajax
    Netherlands
    Oct 14, 2013
    Amsterdam, Holland
    Nat'l Team:
    Netherlands
    #653 Brilliant Dutch, Oct 10, 2017
    Bring on De Boer as our next coach
     
  4. 2nd_striker

    2nd_striker Member

    May 21, 2008
    London
    #654 2nd_striker, Oct 10, 2017
    Robben injured now
     
  5. Brilliant Dutch

    Brilliant Dutch Member+

    Ajax
    Netherlands
    Oct 14, 2013
    Amsterdam, Holland
    Nat'l Team:
    Netherlands
    #655 Brilliant Dutch, Oct 10, 2017
    He keeps a licking, but keeps on ticking.

    Arjen Robben DESERVES a standing ovation at the end of this game!!
     
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  6. Brilliant Dutch

    Brilliant Dutch Member+

    Ajax
    Netherlands
    Oct 14, 2013
    Amsterdam, Holland
    Nat'l Team:
    Netherlands
    #656 Brilliant Dutch, Oct 10, 2017
    I can see vDijk crying a littlebit.

    We won't see another player like Arjen Robben for a long, long time.

    Perhaps not for another 20 or 30 years or so.
    Maybe more??
     
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  7. Rinus127

    Rinus127 Member

    Sep 8, 2015
    Club:
    AFC Ajax
    #657 Rinus127, Oct 10, 2017
    Danny Blind, the most incompetent coach in the history of our football, is mainly responsible for this debacle.
     
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  8. 2nd_striker

    2nd_striker Member

    May 21, 2008
    London
    #658 2nd_striker, Oct 10, 2017
    Danny blind is the worst thing that happened to oranje. Screwed up the euros and screwed up here. Sweden are deadly average and yet got the job done, ridiculous. Dick aint much better selection tonight was horrible and why went dost ball straight away in 2nd half ive got no clue
     
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  9. Orange14

    Orange14 Moderator
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    Apr 27, 2007
    Bethesda, MD
    Club:
    AFC Ajax
    Nat'l Team:
    Netherlands
    #659 Orange14, Oct 10, 2017
    Now it's time for rebuilding. van Dijk won every single ball headed his way and he's a lock. Rekik was OK but Sweden never threatened and he did not have much defending to do. Ake proved that he has no place in the NT, just very little quality. Tete was OK but he's only good defending in the same way Janmaat is only good attacking. Vilhena had a decent enough match and I thought Blind was OK in the MF. Wijnaldum had one chance on goal but was otherwise MIA. Babel has poor ball control and this should be his last match in the team. Janssen has to get his career back on track. Dost was good coming on. Robben is Robben and we don't know whether we saw his final appearance.

    A better team than Sweden tonight and also in the first match where Dost scored the match winner that for unknown reasons didn't count.
     
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  10. Brilliant Dutch

    Brilliant Dutch Member+

    Ajax
    Netherlands
    Oct 14, 2013
    Amsterdam, Holland
    Nat'l Team:
    Netherlands
    #660 Brilliant Dutch, Oct 10, 2017
    Bassie Dost pops that goal in against Sweden and we get 2nd place no problem.

    Then again, we havent played like a world cup team, so maybe all is fair
     
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  11. 2nd_striker

    2nd_striker Member

    May 21, 2008
    London
    #661 2nd_striker, Oct 10, 2017
    Our general play needs to speed up, from the off shouldve been at sweden. Too much backwards and sideways. The youngers need to take risks and go forward when in opposition half especially in an extreme situation like this. Robben should stay and help us. Babel should play as a striker or not at all.
     
  12. Brilliant Dutch

    Brilliant Dutch Member+

    Ajax
    Netherlands
    Oct 14, 2013
    Amsterdam, Holland
    Nat'l Team:
    Netherlands
    #662 Brilliant Dutch, Oct 10, 2017
    Wijnaldum gave up as soon as the starting whistle went.
    Why even bother showing up then?? I hate guys that dont put in a decent effort!!
     
  13. Brilliant Dutch

    Brilliant Dutch Member+

    Ajax
    Netherlands
    Oct 14, 2013
    Amsterdam, Holland
    Nat'l Team:
    Netherlands
    #663 Brilliant Dutch, Oct 10, 2017
    Babel was useless too
     
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  14. Brilliant Dutch

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    Ajax
    Netherlands
    Oct 14, 2013
    Amsterdam, Holland
    Nat'l Team:
    Netherlands
    #664 Brilliant Dutch, Oct 10, 2017
    I have nothing but good things to say about Robben.

    He is in my opinion the greatest Dutch player (after Cruijff) ever!!
    Sorry Marco, but thats the way I feel
     
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  15. Laurent75

    Laurent75 Member

    Aug 2, 2014
    #665 Laurent75, Oct 10, 2017
    Danny Blind is not responsible for Ajax losing to Rosenborg, Nice and 28 other teams...There's a deep problem in dutch football and it will take at least 5-10 years to fix it.
     
  16. Brilliant Dutch

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    Ajax
    Netherlands
    Oct 14, 2013
    Amsterdam, Holland
    Nat'l Team:
    Netherlands
    #666 Brilliant Dutch, Oct 10, 2017
    I think it will take 15 to 20 years.

    Holland wont make another world cup final until 2038 or 2042
     
  17. Orange14

    Orange14 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Apr 27, 2007
    Bethesda, MD
    Club:
    AFC Ajax
    Nat'l Team:
    Netherlands
    #667 Orange14, Oct 10, 2017
    He also was not responsible for Ajax making it to the Europa League finals last year nor was he responsible for Appie Nouri collapsing on the pitch. there may be a deep problem with Dutch football but don't put everything on the shoulders of Ajax.
     
  18. 2nd_striker

    2nd_striker Member

    May 21, 2008
    London
    #668 2nd_striker, Oct 10, 2017
    He’s responsible for how he set up the national team. He cant hide behind the dutch league being weaker cos whats iceland or czech reps leagues like? He lost to teams like that. Van gaal had the same issue and got to a world cup semi
     
  19. Laurent75

    Laurent75 Member

    Aug 2, 2014
    #669 Laurent75, Oct 10, 2017
    I don't. That's why I'm talking about a global problem in dutch football. People blaming on Blind while Advocaat has been crushed 4-0 against France are ridiculous.
     
  20. Brilliant Dutch

    Brilliant Dutch Member+

    Ajax
    Netherlands
    Oct 14, 2013
    Amsterdam, Holland
    Nat'l Team:
    Netherlands
    #670 Brilliant Dutch, Oct 10, 2017
    There is no "deep problem" in Dutch football, we are in between generations right now (similar to 1982-1986).

    There is very little you can do about that right now, except wait for the next talent(s) to arrive.

    Sit tight though, because it could very well be the quiet before the storm!! ;)
    (think what happened to Spain right before 2008)
     
  21. Orange14

    Orange14 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Apr 27, 2007
    Bethesda, MD
    Club:
    AFC Ajax
    Nat'l Team:
    Netherlands
    #671 Orange14, Oct 10, 2017
    Weird though that France with their A-Team on the pitch only beat Belarus 2-1 at home. I wonder whether Deschamps is good enough to mold them into a team that can contend for the WC or whether they just fold.
     
  22. Brilliant Dutch

    Brilliant Dutch Member+

    Ajax
    Netherlands
    Oct 14, 2013
    Amsterdam, Holland
    Nat'l Team:
    Netherlands
    #672 Brilliant Dutch, Oct 10, 2017
    I'm on my 12th jenever right now.
    If I post jibberish please excuse me :confused:
     
  23. Brilliant Dutch

    Brilliant Dutch Member+

    Ajax
    Netherlands
    Oct 14, 2013
    Amsterdam, Holland
    Nat'l Team:
    Netherlands
    #673 Brilliant Dutch, Oct 10, 2017
    France did enough to get by. They knew what they had to do
     
  24. Orange14

    Orange14 Moderator
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    Apr 27, 2007
    Bethesda, MD
    Club:
    AFC Ajax
    Nat'l Team:
    Netherlands
    #674 Orange14, Oct 10, 2017
    I told you switch to a good Kentucky bourbon!!!!
     
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  25. Orange14

    Orange14 Moderator
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    Apr 27, 2007
    Bethesda, MD
    Club:
    AFC Ajax
    Nat'l Team:
    Netherlands
    #675 Orange14, Oct 10, 2017
    But how to explain the draw against Luxembourg?
     
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