Formula One 2002 [R]

Discussion in 'Other Sports' started by sgnerdboy, Jul 17, 2002.

  1. sgnerdboy

    sgnerdboy New Member

    Feb 17, 2000
    Portland, OR, USA
    Club:
    Brøndby IF
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Could they even find two competitive American drivers if they wanted? I presume their plan would be to take drivers from CART/IRL?

    kevin
    + http://tullamarine.org
     
  2. olafgb

    olafgb New Member

    Jun 6, 2001
    Germany
    Frentzen terminated his contract with Arrows. He wants to continue driving F1, maybe with Toyota (for McNish) or Sauber (for Massa).
     
  3. Doctor Stamen

    Doctor Stamen New Member

    Nov 14, 2001
    In a bag with a cat.
    A lookalike

    J-P Montoya looks like one of the guys from crap Aussie soap 'Home and Away'.
     
  4. sgnerdboy

    sgnerdboy New Member

    Feb 17, 2000
    Portland, OR, USA
    Club:
    Brøndby IF
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Well, Arrows aren't going to be racing at Hungary this weekend and it seems doubtful they'd race the rest of a season. A really sad state of affairs.

    Alex Yoong has finally been replaced, but it seems like they didn't have the balls to actually sack him. He's going to be in some training program for the next two races and the comeback for the remaining three.

    kevin
    + http://tullamarine.org
     
  5. olafgb

    olafgb New Member

    Jun 6, 2001
    Germany
    Yoong is replaced by English Anthony Davidson in Hungary and Belgium. According to my information the following two races in Monza and Indianapolis he'll be replaced by US driver Bryan Herta before Yoong returns to the final race in Japan.

    Craig Pollock this week said that the probability to take over the Arrows team is about 80%.
     
  6. olafgb

    olafgb New Member

    Jun 6, 2001
    Germany
    Hungary qualifying ends with disaster for McLaren (Coulthard 10, Raikkonen 11).

    Result:
    1 Barrichello
    2 M Schumacher
    3 R Schumacher
    4 Montoya
    5 Fisichella
    6 Trulli
     
  7. Maczebus

    Maczebus Member

    Jun 15, 2002
    Perhaps now that Schumacher has won the title, Ferrari will take Rubinho's car off the jacks for the warm up lap/get the right re-fueling rig working/get the tyres on quicker.

    Poor chap.
     
  8. olafgb

    olafgb New Member

    Jun 6, 2001
    Germany
    Race Result:

    1 Barrichello
    2 M Schumacher
    3 R Schumacher
    4 Raikkonen
    5 Coulthard
    6 Fisichella

    Ferrari clinched the constructors championship. Barrichello was more or less guided to the victory to collect points for the vice-championship. McLaren did the best they could do out of their bad starting positions.
     
  9. Doctor Stamen

    Doctor Stamen New Member

    Nov 14, 2001
    In a bag with a cat.
    I declare that this is the most boring and predictable championship ever. Williams and McLaren had better close the gap, or else the sport will be even more tedious.
     
  10. LomaB8

    LomaB8 New Member

    Jun 3, 2001
    Hamilton,ON
    Agreed. Disappointing season. Disappointing race. Except for Kimi's excellent overtaking of Montoya. That was about the only excitement in today's race.
     
  11. olafgb

    olafgb New Member

    Jun 6, 2001
    Germany
    Bernie Ecclestone says that the situation couldn't be much better and more interesting. Maybe he should have a look at the TV ratings or all viewers are simply idiots. When McLaren was that superior at the end of the 90s, he was prohibiting their important improvements one after the other - probably we're having a very different situation right now.
     
  12. joseph pakovits

    joseph pakovits New Member

    Apr 29, 1999
    fly-over country
    Oh sure, when I say it, it's bullshit but when the good Doctor says it, it becomes conventional wisdom around here... :D
     
  13. olafgb

    olafgb New Member

    Jun 6, 2001
    Germany
    Hey, I defended you before and said that this season offers enough space for criticism.

    However, some rumors:

    Arrows is extremely close to bankruptcy. Tom Walkinshaw isn't interested in feeding the team with more and more money. The Arrows crew is still waiting for the July salary and currently isn't working anymore. Also Craig Pollock is meanwhile keeping distance to buying Arrows as they only got the actual cars, the team name and the F1 license - but not even a factory to build a new car.

    Jaguar wants to get rid off overpaid Eddie Irvine - surely no news. The news are that the 36 year old is rumored to have a new 3 years contract with Ford. And after Eddie Jordan officially announced to drive with Ford engines next season, it is speculated that sponsor Benson&Hedges wants Irvine. Takuma Sato will most likely leave Jordan as he has no positive criteria speaking for him after Honda won't supply the team with engines anymore.

    Toyota wants to increase their position on the South American market by signing a South American driver. No 1 candidate was Christiano da Matta - the Brazilian already agreed with Toyota, but his employer Newman-Haas demanded a 25 M transfer fee. Next candidate is 22 year old Brazilian Antonio Pizzonia, currently Williams test driver. He'd replace Alan McNish.
     
  14. Maczebus

    Maczebus Member

    Jun 15, 2002
    Plus Minardi will be getting a much needed cash injection - from the Russians of all people.

    Probably ahead of the supposed future Moscow grand prix.
     
  15. olafgb

    olafgb New Member

    Jun 6, 2001
    Germany
    Sauber signed Frentzen for the next season instead of Massa. The funny thing is that their drivers next season - Heidfeld and Frentzen - aren't only from the same country, but also from the same city (Mönchengladbach).
     
  16. olafgb

    olafgb New Member

    Jun 6, 2001
    Germany
    Toyota signed BAR's Olivier Panis for the next season and announced to not renew the contracts of Salo and McNish. Panis' current team colleague Jacques Villeneuve rejected a 3 year 50 M offer of some US cart team.

    Arrows drives to the race in Belgium - eventually they start, but as it seems only if an US investor buys Walkinshaw's team (negotiations are running).
     
  17. slipknotter

    slipknotter New Member

    May 31, 2000
    Austin, TX
    That's why the WRC is my choice of motorsports these days...
     
  18. slipknotter

    slipknotter New Member

    May 31, 2000
    Austin, TX
    McLarens dominated the free practice today...but then again, McNish did get a 7th place in a free practice before, so that doesn't mean jack...
     
  19. olafgb

    olafgb New Member

    Jun 6, 2001
    Germany
    Qualifying Spa:

    1 M Schumacher
    2 Raikkonen (best career qualifying so far)
    3 Barrichello
    4 R Schumacher
    5 Coulthard
    6 Montoya
     
  20. olafgb

    olafgb New Member

    Jun 6, 2001
    Germany
    Race result:

    1 M Schumacher
    2 Barrichello
    3 Montoya
    4 Coulthard
    5 R Schumacher
    6 Irvine (!)
    ------
    7 Salo
    8 Villeneuve
    9 McNish
    10 Heidfeld
    11 Sato
    12 Panis

    All others out. Nice race if it had taken place without the red ones.
     
  21. Maczebus

    Maczebus Member

    Jun 15, 2002
    Well chuffed about Irvine getting that point. Shame Pedro's car didn't have the legs to finish.

    I really hope they don't lose Spa from the racing calendar.
    A fantastic track. It seems the FIA are hell bent on getting rid of any remotely endearing track that the drivers seem to like (Hockenheim and now Spa possibly).
     
  22. olafgb

    olafgb New Member

    Jun 6, 2001
    Germany
    Yes, Spa is also one of my favourites. Unfortunately FIA (and most of the drivers) just love these high security plastic tracks without spectacular scenes, and short tracks to pass the tribunes as often as possible.
     
  23. SueB

    SueB New Member

    Mar 23, 1999
    Waterbury, VT
    Really? Is anybody challenging Peugeot this year?
     
  24. Excape Goat

    Excape Goat Member+

    Mar 18, 1999
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Okay.... let's talk about 2003.

    Who will be driving for whom? This is all I knew so far. Please fill in.

    Ferrari: Michael Schumacher and Rubens Barrichello
    McLaren: DC and Kimi Raikkonen
    Williams: JPM and Ralf Schumacher
    Renault: Trulli and Alfonso(?)
    Sauber: Frentzen and Heidfield
    Jordan: Giancarlo Fisichella and Sato(?)
    BAR: JV and Jenson Button
    Jauguar: Bruce Webber and ???
    Toyota: Panis and ????
    Minardi: No more Yoong and Webber.
     
  25. olafgb

    olafgb New Member

    Jun 6, 2001
    Germany
    End of F1 boredom? BMW produced a new engine being able to make use of more than the critical 19.000 rpm. Result today: all time average speed record for a single lap (previous record holder: Keke Rosberg in 1984).

    Qualifying result Monza:

    1 Montoya
    2 M Schumacher
    3 R Schumacher
    4 Barrichello
    5 Raikkonen
    6 Irvine
    7 Coulthard
    8 de la Rosa
    9 Villeneuve
    10 Salo
     

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