Fool me thrice ... if fool me you can't get fooled again - The 2023-24 OTT

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  1. celito

    celito Moderator
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    Palmeiras
    Brazil
    Feb 28, 2005
    USA
    Club:
    Palmeiras Sao Paulo
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    Pretty bad. And they are in financial trouble. Might even not make payroll. They will need to sell players to keep the club afloat and gaining promotion next year isn't a sure thing. They really need a buyer and be taken private. The speculation is that Neymar will do that at some point.
     
  2. BocaFan

    BocaFan Member+

    Aug 18, 2003
    Queens, NY
    Helmond Cup update:

    Result:
    10 Dec (Bundesliga)
    VfB Stuttgart 1
    Bayer Leverkusen 1

    Next fixture:
    Thur., 14 Dec (Europa League)
    Bayer Leverkusen v Molde

    Forthcoming:
    Bayer Leverkusen v Eintracht Frankfurt (Bundesliga)
    [Molde v TBD (Europa League or Conference League playoff round)]
     
  3. BocaFan

    BocaFan Member+

    Aug 18, 2003
    Queens, NY
    Two posts in-a-row on the Helmond Cup. Quiet times.

    Helmond Cup update:


    Result:
    14 Dec (Europa League)
    Bayer Leverkusen 5
    Molde 1

    17 Dec (Bundesliga)
    Bayer Leverkusen 3
    E. Frankfurt 0

    Next fixture:
    Wed., 20 Dec (Bundesliga)
    Bayer Leverkusen v VfL Bochum

    Forthcoming:
    *Bundesliga Winter Break*
     
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  4. evil_allan

    evil_allan Member+

    May 3, 2004
    Turtle Island
    on the bright side, we still get the occasional nazi troll to make fun of.
     
  5. celito

    celito Moderator
    Staff Member

    Palmeiras
    Brazil
    Feb 28, 2005
    USA
    Club:
    Palmeiras Sao Paulo
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    Here is something interesting, Al Ittihad, Benzema's team, soundly lost in the QF of the CWC, which is being played in Saudi Arabia, to Al Ahly from Egypt 3 x 1. Benzema even missed a PK. Not a good look after investing all that money. I am sure the Saudis wanted a good showing.

    Man City will play Fluminense in the final on Friday.
     
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  6. celito

    celito Moderator
    Staff Member

    Palmeiras
    Brazil
    Feb 28, 2005
    USA
    Club:
    Palmeiras Sao Paulo
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    Girona dropped points at Betis today with a draw.
     
  7. celito

    celito Moderator
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    Palmeiras
    Brazil
    Feb 28, 2005
    USA
    Club:
    Palmeiras Sao Paulo
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    This CWC final has been quite interesting. Man City scored early but Fluminense has done well keeping possession and breaking the press with its game of approximation. City looks confused. Not for the faint of heart though.
     
  8. celito

    celito Moderator
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    Palmeiras
    Brazil
    Feb 28, 2005
    USA
    Club:
    Palmeiras Sao Paulo
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    Julian Alvarez, at 23, has won every title available to him at where he played.

    Argentinean League
    Libertadores
    Copa America
    World Cup
    EPL
    FA Cup
    CWC
     
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  9. inswinger

    inswinger Moderator
    Staff Member

    May 17, 2001
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    Something something rainy Tuesday night at Stoke
     
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  10. Bada Bing

    Bada Bing Member+

    Jul 13, 2012
    Finland
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    Not true, failed to win Copa De La Superliga/Professional, and Community Shield.
     
  11. celito

    celito Moderator
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    Palmeiras
    Brazil
    Feb 28, 2005
    USA
    Club:
    Palmeiras Sao Paulo
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    Two worthless glorified friendlies. Nobody cares about those titles. They only "count" when someone is trying to say player X has won Y amount of titles. But when listing a player's title achievements, people don't even remember if a player won these silly Supercups.
     
  12. celito

    celito Moderator
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    Palmeiras
    Brazil
    Feb 28, 2005
    USA
    Club:
    Palmeiras Sao Paulo
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    Winning a league at Stoke on a Monday winter night is a title in itself indeed.
     
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  13. Bada Bing

    Bada Bing Member+

    Jul 13, 2012
    Finland
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    Yet you're listing CWC which is practically given for Uefa team from the get go, as winning against Fluminense, as opposed of losing Community Shield to Arsenal and Liverpool. It was just a completely bogus tweet.
     
  14. celito

    celito Moderator
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    Palmeiras
    Brazil
    Feb 28, 2005
    USA
    Club:
    Palmeiras Sao Paulo
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    As silly as the CWC may be, it's still more valuable than these Supercups IMO. The strength difference is definitely huge, but at least in concept, it's an interesting idea. While I can't say the same thing for Supercups. Pinning the league champions against the Domestic Cup champions doesn't really tell me anything conceptually. Not to mention they are mostly played right at the end of pre-season and the beginning of the season (except for Spain, not sure about Argentina).
     
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  15. Leon12

    Leon12 Member+

    Jan 5, 2006
    Man of the world
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    Lol, I'm sure he'd trade in his world cup winners medal for the community shield :D:D:D
     
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  16. Ozora

    Ozora Member+

    Barcelona
    Spain
    Aug 5, 2014
    Club:
    Chelsea LFC
    Ancelotti has signed new deal with RM, until 2026.

    So no new coach for Brazil @celito
     
  17. Ozora

    Ozora Member+

    Barcelona
    Spain
    Aug 5, 2014
    Club:
    Chelsea LFC
    CWC is about to have big change. So it may be considered as something bigger, compare to now.
     
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  18. celito

    celito Moderator
    Staff Member

    Palmeiras
    Brazil
    Feb 28, 2005
    USA
    Club:
    Palmeiras Sao Paulo
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    Or new coach, just not Ancelotti. Not sure what communications between CBF and Carlo were, but terrible mismanagement.

    My prediction of Mbappe transferring in and Zidane coming in to coach is off as well.
     
  19. Ozora

    Ozora Member+

    Barcelona
    Spain
    Aug 5, 2014
    Club:
    Chelsea LFC
    I think CBF may want Carlo before Copa 2024 while he wants a fresh start.

    RM probably don't want to think much about next coach soon (Perez is busy with ESL now) so they offer him new contract.

    And which coach now can suit Brazil? Why i have feeling old names like Dunga or Scolari may be CBF choice?
     
  20. inswinger

    inswinger Moderator
    Staff Member

    May 17, 2001
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
  21. celito

    celito Moderator
    Staff Member

    Palmeiras
    Brazil
    Feb 28, 2005
    USA
    Club:
    Palmeiras Sao Paulo
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    But, but, Negreira .... :whistling:



    This account often exaggerates things, but that's a clear hold on a defender making a play on the ball.
     
  22. BocaFan

    BocaFan Member+

    Aug 18, 2003
    Queens, NY
    Yeah, the active CL winner might not even qualify for the expanded CWC. And even if they do, it will be harder to win with 11 other UEFA teams involved in it.

    But remember, the current Club WC (with just the champions of each confederation plus a host) will continue to exist beyond this year.
     
  23. celito

    celito Moderator
    Staff Member

    Palmeiras
    Brazil
    Feb 28, 2005
    USA
    Club:
    Palmeiras Sao Paulo
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    Right. The current CWC will still exist but now the UEFA CL winner only plays the final. No more SF for them. The others will fight for the right to play them.
     
  24. JoCryuff98

    JoCryuff98 Member+

    Barcelona
    Netherlands
    Jan 3, 2018
    Nat'l Team:
    Netherlands
  25. Ozora

    Ozora Member+

    Barcelona
    Spain
    Aug 5, 2014
    Club:
    Chelsea LFC
    Rest in peace Kaiser.

    Zagallo, then Beckenbauer. Football lost two great man.
     
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