Fire Warzycha, 2013 Edition (Vol. 1)

How about this: Bob is only garnering 33% of the possible home points this season. 47% of the road points. This is totaling a measly 40% of the potential total points. The Crew, under his direction this season, are sitting in the lower 50% of the table, but are the best team sitting on the outside of the playoff picture, where, if the season ended today, there would be a 100% chance of the Crew not making the playoffs.

Also, the Crew are 0-4-3 (W-L-D) (19% of the points) against teams not sitting on the bottom of their respective conferences, against whom (those cellar dwellers) they have taken 100% of the points.

 

Better.

 

Yes. Absolutely.

 

What's wrong with Bliss if he does a good job? Why wouldn't he deserve a contract in that event? An outside search will turn up the usual candidates, ie Preki, Nicol, etc. Nothing wrong with them but why ditch Bliss if the team is doing well? Getting Sigi was an unusual situation. Most coaches don't get fired with their team in first place.

 

Some apparently can't get fired in 6th place!!!

 

Only in America. I follow another team searching for its fifth manager in 18 months. Say what you want about that, but if you think the treatment here is bad, then you should see the nearly universal stream of vitriol on those boards directed at the next ex-manager.

So by contrast, Bob's feet aren't being held to the fire, they're being held to the cotton candy and bubble gum.

 

If you recall RW did a good job during his interim stewardship in 2005. The combined forces of the standard short-term on-field performance boost that usually comes with a coaching change plus the lack of pressure of on the interim coach because he has every excuse in the book at his disposal allow him to overperform(?) or not overthink it or whatever it is that seems to occur whenever this happens around the world. Interim coach != head coach.

 

I'm really, REALLY sick of the "...butbutbut LOYALTY!!!! HIS FAMILY!!!!" as some sort of stupid ********ing trump card act. Loyalty is great, but if it causes damage, you should re-think your approach. There are other ways to be loyal.

 

I think this would be an awesome idea. For all those that don't want to start calling for Robert to go, maybe some pro Guille chants would be a good middle ground. For all those super "SACK WARZYCHA NOW!!!!, it's not like he's going to help his case. Face it, we're losing most our next few matches.

Seeing lot's of light blue and chants for a pro Argentinian coach or for a coach that speaks more spanish, less polish could get 2 points across.

 

Yes, what's wrong with that? I supported the hiring of Bob based largely on his success as interim manager. You may remember there was a St Greg thread here when Fitz was let go. If firing the coach is what it takes to get better results, let's have a firing line. I'm also willing to give a guy who gets good results (Bliss in this hypothetical) a chance to keep his job. Coaching is a bottom line business, where the bottom line isn't dollars, it's wins. If we get a successful coach, let's keep him this time. If he then has a prolonged period of decline, then replace him.

 

Of course you were one of the loudest complainers when Guille, Frankie, et al. were let loose. Loyalty was everything then.

 

Link (Guille, maybe)? Frankie, I recall not being terribly upset.

And there's a huge ********ing difference: Bob has caused harm; the other two, at most, just got old.

 

You seriously expect me to look through thousands of posts in hundreds of threads to find comments you don't deny making? Seriously?

 

Frankie cost us games at the end.

Selective memory?

 

Do either of you two have a link to support the following assertion:

If not, ******** right off.

 

Unless your name is Sir Alex

 

Is an Elo system good with you?

 

You're asking for documentation in the "Fire Warzycha" thread? This thread is the "Fox News" of Big Soccer, consisting of imaginary events, invented conspiracies, over the top outrage, and distrust of anything management has to say. We don't document here.

 

Please provide a link to support the following assertion:

If not, then please insert into an orifice of your choice a large cylindrical object.

 

I was not "one of the loudest complainers" for the period cited, certainly not blindly citing "LOYALTY!!!!!!" (rather than, say, competition considerations).

Find a link contradicting that, whoever thinks otherwise.

 

You know, Timon has a point that hasn't yet been addressed.

Namely, that loyalty to players and loyalty to coaches, at least in this sport, really aren't comparable at all. So IMO, there is no gotcha moment here to be had. Further, loyalty to coaches is even more skewed in MLS, which seems to operate in some weird kind of soccer Twilight Zone when it comes to management.

Anywhere else in the world, if a coach is underperforming, then eventually you tell him, "turn results around or we'll find someone that will." You can comfortably draw up a list of, say, 6-8 candidates, start interviewing and away you go, for better or worse.

Here? No chance. Take three examples of varying degrees of strugglers. Olsen, Klopas and Warzycha. All part of the historical furniture of their respective clubs. Anywhere else, they'd each already be hitting the links right now, working on their swing. Not here though.