FIFA World Cup 2018: Argentina vs. Iceland - June 16 [R]

Discussion in 'Argentina: Selecciones Nacionales' started by locoxriver, Jun 11, 2018.

  1. locoxriver

    locoxriver Moderator
    Staff Member

    May 22, 2005
    Los Angeles
    Club:
    CA River Plate
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
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    Argentina vs Iceland

    Argentina [​IMG] Match 7 [​IMG] Iceland
    16 June 2018
    16:00 UTC+3 ( 6:00 AM PST / 9:00 AM EST)

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    Otkritie Arena, Moscow (45,360 Capacity)

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    Head-to-Head Statistics:

    - Matches Played: 0

    Iceland's Form:

    - Finished first in Group I of the UEFA World Cup Qualifiers, which they led with 7 wins, 2 losses, and 1 draw (16 GF, 7 GA). Coincidentally, they were in the same group as Croatia, who will also be part of our group at the World Cup.

    - Dark horses of the 2016 Euros: Iceland became the smallest nation to ever qualify for a major international tournament and shocked the world with several positive results. After tying with eventual champions Portugal in the group stage, the "vikings" proceeded to pull off the biggest upset of the tournament by eliminating England in the Round of 16.

    - Currently arriving in poor form in terms of friendlies. After beginning 2018 on a positive note with a 4-1 thrashing of Indonesia, Iceland has gone on to have a series of bad results -- 0 wins in their last 4 games, and 11 goals conceded (0-3 loss to Mexico, 1-3 loss to Peru, 2-3 loss to Norway, 2-2 tie with Ghana)
     
  2. soul24rage

    soul24rage Member

    Jun 13, 2009
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    --other--
    Can't believe the WC is already here, very excited! I'm confident that the team will bring a good result and I'm sure Sampa won't let the team underestimate Iceland. I think Sampa will go with this lineup.

    --------------------Caballero
    Mercado--Otamendi---Rojo---Tagliafico
    ------------Mascherano----Lo Celso
    Meza-----------Messi------------Di Maria
    ------------------Aguero

    Let's bring the trophy home. Vamos!
    Score prediction: 2-0 for Argentina (Messi, Aguero)
     
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  3. SupaMario

    SupaMario Member+

    Aug 31, 2009
    Los Angeles
    Club:
    CA Tigre
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    Pardon me for recycling my old meme.

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  4. Pekerman

    Pekerman Member+

    May 20, 2006
    I would prefer salvio instead of mercado. He offers a lot going forward and masch can slot in as the third defender for cover. Meza needs to dribble and penetrate because he will have space when the attention is on Messi. Aguero, Pavon and Dybala as subs if higuain starts.

    I think we will score early and blow them out 3-0.
     
  5. Loco

    Loco Member

    May 1, 2005
    Get ready for the Iceland 4-4-2 formation (bus parking). Anything less than 3pts from this game will be catastrophic. Iceland's best chances will come from set-pieces and careful counters. We will most likely control 70% of possession, but will need to score early for easy 3pts.

    Like I said, anything less than 3pts will be catastrophic. I hate to face Croatia without 3plts in our pocket
     
  6. SupaMario

    SupaMario Member+

    Aug 31, 2009
    Los Angeles
    Club:
    CA Tigre
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    If in fact if this is the starting 11, then I think we'll be okay.

    I am not exactly thrilled with Willy starting but he did have a very solid showing v the tanos. I am going to view that match v the gallegos as somewhat of an outlier. I don't blame him for that, I think the defense let him down and he was in no man's land. I would prefer Armani but Sampa has hinted that Willy will be the #1.

    For the FB's. Finally, Nico belongs where he should be and that is in our starting 11. As I predicted years ago, I believe he has the makings of the future captain of the seleccion. As for Mercado, he hasn't had the greatest season's with Sevilla but whenever he has worn the shirt, he has given his all and played with dignity and respect.

    The CB's. Otamendi has come leaps and bounds, and I know most people see him as a wild-man and who goes flying into tackles, which can accumulate cards but I think Pep has helped him since he has taken over at City. As for Rojo :(, I would prefer Fazio, since he is the better defender and has the size and physicality that can handle any player on any team but some say Rojo is better as a CB than as a FB. I don't know, I think he is crap but Sampaoli probably sees something in him in training. Or maybe, since Sampa did not bring enough CB's, this has come back to bite him in the ass, because there could've been a possibility that both Fazio and Otamendi could be suspended for the same match and he wants to preserve Fazio.

    Masche-Lo Celso partnership. I think Masche can help Gio a lot by teaching him the arts of defending. Masche is not what he was 4 years ago, hell, he is not what he was 2 years ago but I trust him over Biglia who provides us nothing. Lo Celso is a very gifted passer, he has the vision that could help connect with our attacking line. Masche is a good passer as well. My biggest concern will be who will replace one of these players if they are suspended. Imagine starting Biglia and Banega? :eek::eek::eek:.

    Meza- I believe Iceland will be a test for him and Sampa will watch him with a close eye. I believe he is a talented player who has trickery and will lure defenders and can open up space. His decision needs to be a bit crisper, but again we will see how does v Iceland and then I believe Sampa will decide if he will keep him there and look elsewhere.

    ADM- The player who on his day can be one of the best in the world. He never tires and will surely cause defenses problems. But he can be far and away one of the most frustrating players we have. The epitome of a headless chicken. But, I am going to be a fool to say this, I believe he will stay healthy throughout the tournament.

    Messi and Kun. These two are close friends and will be roommates once again. Kun has talked about how great his knee feels and is no longer playing in pain. It was just reported as early as last week he still wasn't match-fit but he probably will get close. He hasn't played a match in two months, thus he isn't coming off a long season. Messi and Kun do click well and Kun is much better in front of goal than Fatso. And I don't have to say much about Messi.

    I do predict a 3-0 victory, two from Kun and one from Messi. Or hell, I will say we get a goal from a set piece from Otamendi.
     
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  7. pipinogol

    pipinogol Member

    May 20, 2016
    Club:
    Cary RailHawks U23
    Biglia and Mascherano will start and we will waste a half, calling it now. Playing Higuaín as starter would be the icing on the cake.
     
  8. soul24rage

    soul24rage Member

    Jun 13, 2009
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    --other--
    #8 soul24rage, Jun 11, 2018
    Last edited: Jun 11, 2018
    If we had Rojo of 16-17, I would have been okish. He had a decent run with Man Utd at CB during that time, but even back then he had one reckless tackle per match. Like you, I'm hoping he plays Fazio instead of Rojo. However with the yellow card accumulation rule, I would play Rojo during the group stage (I think he should be good enough) and use Fazio in the knock out stage if we get there. Or we'll just have to hope Rojo gets in form during the group stages.

    The DM is my main concern. I agree that Masche is a good passer, but only when he has space and time with the ball. Both Biglia and Masche aren't good when they receive the ball facing their own goal and can't turn when they are pressed as we saw against Spain. Still, of the squad, Masche is our best DM and he really needs to be in form to even have the chance of winning the damn thing. Maybe Lo Celso is good when being pressed? I think Messi will have to go deep often to help the team get out of the press. After all these years, I'm still having a hard time understanding what Biglia offers or is even good at.
     
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  9. SupaMario

    SupaMario Member+

    Aug 31, 2009
    Los Angeles
    Club:
    CA Tigre
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
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  10. soul24rage

    soul24rage Member

    Jun 13, 2009
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    --other--
    LOLOL
     
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  11. Rattlehead

    Rattlehead Member+

    Jun 21, 2010
    Jakarta
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    But Iceland proof they're still better than another land called England. They beat them at major tournament last time around.
     
  12. Rattlehead

    Rattlehead Member+

    Jun 21, 2010
    Jakarta
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    Sometimes its hard to forget the 2002 disaster where we had most of ball possession in all 3 games but for whatever reason we struggle to score. Sweden and England both scored against Argentina from deadball.
     
  13. Rattlehead

    Rattlehead Member+

    Jun 21, 2010
    Jakarta
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    You're missing alot...



    He offers something special in shootout as always



     
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  14. locoxriver

    locoxriver Moderator
    Staff Member

    May 22, 2005
    Los Angeles
    Club:
    CA River Plate
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
  15. jimmi_moh

    jimmi_moh Member+

    Mar 30, 2009
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    Lets start our Ride together , Hope we can reach our destination with out much drama
     
  16. pipinogol

    pipinogol Member

    May 20, 2016
    Club:
    Cary RailHawks U23
    XI confirmed apparently in today's training: Caballero; Salvio, Otamendi, Rojo, Tagliafico; Mascherano, Biglia; Meza, Messi, Di maria; Agüero.
     
  17. pregra

    pregra Member

    Barcelona
    Argentina
    Dec 1, 2008
    Norway
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    Sampaoli needs to get sacked after this WC if he plays a CM combo of Mascherano and Biglia. I’m lost for words.
     
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  18. pipinogol

    pipinogol Member

    May 20, 2016
    Club:
    Cary RailHawks U23
    I predict it will last one half. When the coach sees we aren't cheating sh1t he'll have to change it. Like the bs of Sabella against Bosnia.
     
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  19. Christina99

    Christina99 Member+

    Sep 22, 2013
    Buenos Aires
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    3-1 Aguero scores, Messi scores, and the 3rd Arg goals comes from someone unexpected, like LoCelso or a defender. Iceland scores on set pieces at the end of the game.
     
  20. SupaMario

    SupaMario Member+

    Aug 31, 2009
    Los Angeles
    Club:
    CA Tigre
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    Hopefully, the Biglia-Masche partnership is only a rumor and they won't start. It really is upsetting to hear such a thing or even be tried out.
     
  21. pipinogol

    pipinogol Member

    May 20, 2016
    Club:
    Cary RailHawks U23
    It is not a rumor, almost all journalists say it.

    Let's not be too upset, it could have been worse (with Higuaín starting).
     
  22. SupaMario

    SupaMario Member+

    Aug 31, 2009
    Los Angeles
    Club:
    CA Tigre
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    Every 24 hours, or even now 12 hours, since we are getting closer, it changes. I’ll wait till I see the official starting lineup.
     
  23. locoxriver

    locoxriver Moderator
    Staff Member

    May 22, 2005
    Los Angeles
    Club:
    CA River Plate
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    Something unrelated to Argentina also says 0-4 in this pic
     
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  24. Rattlehead

    Rattlehead Member+

    Jun 21, 2010
    Jakarta
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    My prediction : 3-1 for Argentina

    2 Messi and 1 Aguero and then giving up one clumsy goal as we usually does once or twice in major tournament. Rojo maybe giving away a stupid penalty if he play.
     
  25. Rattlehead

    Rattlehead Member+

    Jun 21, 2010
    Jakarta
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    ...and then having Rojo alongside those two all at once. We will get killed like in 82 when we had too many same midfielders and defenders as 4 years earlier . Italy in 2010 & Spain in 2014 are another great example. Experience player is needed but only the one with great quality (skill and footballing brain), Biglia and Rojo has none of the that attributes.
     

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