The Liberian Football Association has promised to report RSL to the FIFA disciplinary committee. The issue is Willis Forko's participation in Thursday's 0-1 home loss to FC Dallas. Because RSL reported Forko "injured", he was inelligible to play during the period of his would-be Liberian call-up. For more details on this ugly situation...a timeline of key events, the applicable FIFA guidelines, and more background are posted on my site today. Football-mad Liberians watch the Forko-less "Lone Stars" draw on Sunday
Re: FIFA sanction: will RSL "forfeit" its 4/16 loss to FC Dallas Very interesting stuff. Just FYI it was 5/16. Would this then make the match a 3-0 final and take the goal away from Oduro?
Re: FIFA sanction: will RSL "forfeit" its 4/16 loss to FC Dallas does forfeiting a match that we lost mean anything at all?
Re: FIFA sanction: will RSL "forfeit" its 4/16 loss to FC Dallas Wasn't it 6/14 ? Edit: rslfm updated the topic title with the correct date
Re: FIFA sanction: will RSL "forfeit" its 4/16 loss to FC Dallas Instead of, "We lose again!" it's, "We lose again both financially and in the record books."
Re: FIFA sanction: will RSL "forfeit" its 4/16 loss to FC Dallas Wouldn't it be 14/6 because the rest of the world puts the date first?
Re: FIFA sanction: will RSL "forfeit" its 4/16 loss to FC Dallas U.S. is stubborn. World - Day-Month-Year (logical) US - Month-Day-Year (not logical) World - Football (logical) US - Soccer (illogical. American Football uses feet rarely) World - Metric System (logical - increments of 10) US - Ugly System (illogical - 12 sometimes, 3 other times, than 16 randomly, and lets throw in 5,280 Feet for 1 Mile) There is probably many more you can add. Sorry about going off-topic.
Re: FIFA sanction: will RSL "forfeit" its 4/16 loss to FC Dallas Soccer is properly called, Association Football (look it up in the FIFA statutes). Rugby is properly called, Rugby Football. Soccer is a British naming convention for the game that is more widely used in countries where American Football is commonly played. From Fussballportal:
Re: FIFA sanction: will RSL "forfeit" its 4/16 loss to FC Dallas More OT: Far East Asia - Year-Month-Day (logical) And you mentioned the metric system, I just want to make sure that Fahrenheit gets mentioned among the "ugly" and illogical. Americans bristle every time I say I think we should switch to metric, but if we just did it I don't think anyone would even care. Sorry about the OT.
Yep, it means that we lost both on and off the field. And if nothing else, this apparent display of dishonesty and/or incompetence/ignorance is a shame and an embarrassment for this club.
Embarrassment, schembarrassment. Stuff like this goes on all the time in the European leagues. Move along, nothing to see here.
Actually, no it doesn't--at least not without serious repercussions. If you honestly don't believe European clubs handle these situations any better, I recommend reading today's European press...Guardian (UK)/Paul Doyle: FIFA recognises Mali blunder: Blatter insists mistake 'will not happen again' Unlike RSL, these Spanish clubs had the self-respect & forethought to formally petition FIFA to lift their players' African Cup obligations. Unlike RSL, they didn't (falsely) claim "injury" and hope no one would be the wiser. And if these European clubs' above-board behavior was called "disrespectful to Africa" and "scandleous"--and it was called that...just imagine how these African nations would describe RSL's far tawdrier behavior. Actually, no need to imagine. Just ask the LFA. The issues involved here are far bigger than what RSL staff and many of its supporters might imagine.
Turns out that the Spanish League scheduled its season such that it overlapped with the known and previously scheduled African Cup. The Spanish League knew it was putting its clubs in this situation, and didn't care. La Liga dissed Africans badly. And, if FIFA doesn't impose stringent fines on the teams involved (because that is how you will get the attention of the league) then it is dissing Africans. So, if you want to point fingers, start with La Liga.
Does that mean we are really 0-4-6-1? And are they just asking us to forfeit a loss because we dont have a win to forfeit? And what does it really matter at this point? I vote for forfeiting our whole season!
Whether claiming a player is injured when he isn't or scheduling conflicts, this happens all the time in Europe. Blatter might insist that the mistake will not happen again, but don't hold your breathe. It's guaranteed that something like this will happen again next year because there are only so many open weekends available so it is inevitable that there will be scheduling conflicts. At least RSL didn't do what most European clubs do by simply refusing to release their players. FIFA says that they have to, but there are always ways around doing what FIFA says, especially when UEFA trumps FIFA (in European club eyes). Bottom line: RSL did something wrong, but will all the other bonehead stuff that the FO has done this year, this is really nothing. RSL will have to pay a fine and have to promise to not do it again, but that's all. Like I said before, move along, nothing to see here.
I'm sorry but I don't see how this is a nothing. Coach is proving himself to be incompetent, bad with money, and now dishonest. Yeah, nice choice to represent RSL to the world. So FIFA's first significant dealings with RSL will be punative. Nice one JK, nice one.
Incompetent? Bad with money? Dishonest? What, you think that other coaches are any better? At least he's not paying off opposing players to throw games like Bernard Tapie. For the uninitiated, Bernard Tapie was the president of Olympique Marseille in 1993. OM was in the running for both the French league title and the Champions League title. The game the weekend before the Champions League final (against AC Milan if memory serves me right) was against bottom-dweller Valenciennes who was already going to be relegated next season. Ergo, Monsieur Tapie decided to pay off a few of Valenciennes' players so that they would "laydown" so-to-speak against his team and not stress his best players so that they would be fresh when they went up against AC Milan in the Champions League final. OM won against Valenciennes and won the French league title (which was stripped later) and also won the Champions League title (the only French side to have done so and which has never been stripped). So, putting everything into perspective, JK maybe incompetent (I think it's too early to tell), bad with money (possibly) and dishonest (forse), but until he rises to the level of corruption found in the European leagues, I doubt he any worse than any other coach that FIFA has any dealings with. Maybe he is the worse coach in the MLS, but I think The Bruce would give him a run for his money.
Ah, but at least Tapie won a game. Kidding aside, that report was thorough and fantastic, FM. Would rep if I didn't have to spread it around.
I have a theory that Forko wanted to achieve his first call-up and when he was told that he couldn't go (against his wishes and that of the LFA), the jilted Forko either told a friend in the side like Gbandi (or someone in the FA) that he wasn't injured and that this was a deliberate attempt by RSL to avoid required release. Word, of course, didn't take long to travel to the higher-ups. I can't help but think that Forko is the most angry about all of this.
I am distressed (EmbraTSu notwithstanding!) that with all the problems we have, we now have to add not only dishonesty but incompetent dishonesty! I was willing to give Kreis a chance but he is not impressing me too much so far. While I have seen improvement in some areas, I have seen decline in others. I am not yet to the fire Kreis point but if this is his doing I am now teetering on the line.
I too have lost my patience with Kreis, despite my initial willingness to give him a chance, even post-Cunningham trade. I think it was idiotic of Uncle Dave to move him from player to coach in the span of a week. Frankly, he should have served at least a year as an assistant before becoming a head coach. Barring that, he needed at least a pre-season to learn the ropes. Now we see complete dishonesty, and I wonder if that would have made a difference.
Or it could be, as RSLFM suggests, that perhaps the Liberian Nats just took a glance at the publicly available box score and saw that Forko was in fact NOT injured as RSL had claimed.