I just looked at the Match information on ESPN for the FC Troyes-Nantes match and saw that the Troyes 1st string keeper was red carded. However, Westberg was not entered into the game. Did they just play with a field player as keeper? What's the deal? Does anyone know?
When a keeper is carded, a field player, usually chosen by the opposing team I belive, is sent off and the keeper stays in. The keeper, however, is suspended for at least one game after the current one. Sachin
He was on the bench, but the team had made all three subs. Nantes scored the equalizer minutes after the red. Per L'Equipe.
http://soccernet.espn.go.com/match?id=194933&cc=5901 Actually, Nantes scored the go ahead goal after the red card. Then, a red on a Nantes' player and the equalizer by Troyes. I don't mean to be nitpicky. Hopefully, that means three games for Westberg, although they may use someone with more experience if they have one.
What? Isn't that what happened in an EPL game involving Everton? I remember that happening WC'94 with Italy when Paliuca (sp?) handled the ball outside the box and Baggio got sent off in his place. If I'm wrong, correct me. Sachin
No longer can a team do that. Evidence is that Liverpool v. Chelsea. Red card to Reina. He was ejected and Dudek came in for Luis Garcia. Link http://soccernet.espn.go.com/match?id=190636&cc=5901
Pagliuca was sent-off in that WC game. Then Baggio was taken out for Luca Marchegiani, who played in goal for the rest of the game and group quals, IIRC.
Well, if they did that before, they don't anyomore. And if you've used your 3 subs, it's a field player going into goal.
Fair enough. It sure as hell ain't in the FIFA Law Book. There a couple of problems with such a rule: a) Allowing teams to substitute who gets sent off b) Letting your opponent choose your goalkeeper This sounds like something out of a rec league.
http://www.planetworldcup.com/CUPS/1994/groupe_nor_v_ita.html Gianluca Pagliuca was sent off, and Baggio was taken off in the 22nd minute for the reserve goalkeeper. You can't get sent off in somebody else's place.
And in fact, Pagliuca did get tossed, and the keeper had to come on for Baggio (I forget who it was). Just that in this case Troyes had used all of it's subs so a field player had to play goal.
If you a moderator on this site with 16,000 posts, how can you not understand something like that? That's simply all I want to know. It's ridiculous. (hopefully you mods won't have a problem with this post)
Both GKs got red cards and each team had used three subs so they finished with field players in goal. Here is a match tracker (french). Westberg has been the on the bench for every match and started most reserve matches, I can't see another GK playing.
I'm the worst when it comes to details so I'm not sure why it's ridiculous. We mods don't get paid the big bucks to know all the little details. I don't think I have 16,000 posts though.
That is not a rule, maybe a high school rule or something, but not a FIFA rule. Both keepers sent off in Nantes versus Troyes match AFP February 14, 2006 PARIS (AFP) - Both keepers were sent off in the 1-1 draw between Nantes and Troyes leaving outfield players attending both goalmouths in an extraordinary French league match. A lacklustre fixture suddenly became notable when Troyes's Ronan Le Crom and Nantes's Mickael Landreau were given their marching orders, and with both sides having used their substitutes, outfield players were called to duty between both sets of posts. In a late flurry of action in the final quarter-hour, Claudiu Andrei Keseru scored for Nantes though Benjamin Nivet equalised. And in the same time frame, Troyes keeper Le Crom was dismissed for a professional foul on Mamadou Diallo who had got past the defence and only had the keeper to beat. It had been midfielder Enza Yamissi who deputised for Le Crom between the posts and it was him who let in the opening goal from a Keseru freekick. Then Nantes captain Landreau was also sent in for an early shower after fouling Ziad Jaziri allowing Nivet to convert the equalising penalty past Nicolas Savinaud, normally a defender. In the night's other rearranged French league fixture, Nice won 1-0 at St Etienne thanks to a first-half goal from striker David Bellion.
It used to be more common for teams to be forced to play outfield players in golas in the days before subsitutes and when charging the goalkeeper was still legal. Still it's not unknown these days, though not often. Some famous outfield players (Niall Quinn, Bobby Moore and Nat Lofthouse) have saved penalites whilst playing as makeshift goalkeepers. In amputee soccer when the goalkeeper is sent off, both him and a nominated outfield player are replaced by the reserve goalkeeper.
I don't understand how you could not know something like that though........ As a soccer fan....... If you've played the game at any level..... I thought he was joking.
Foot + in France. Great opportunity for "Q" (as he's known) after 26 matches on the bench watching Ronan Le Crom play excellently between the posts to keepTroyes alive in Ligue 1.