Punishing the club and fans simply is necessary to get the message across that those responsible for such acts harm the club and have no place in it. If you adopt a lackadaisical attitude towards such things, you end up with a worrisome football culture that plagues Italy, much of Eastern Europe and sadly also partially the new Länder. Can't have that. My hope is that Pauli fans will be at least as passionate about fighting such tendencies within their ranks as they've been anti-commerce. IMO, rather too much at times, but hey I think commercialisation is infinitely less of an evil than violence and bigotry. Much as I dislike the EPL, I'd take it any day over what English football was in the 70s and 80s (but then, German football isn't a hypercommercialised product and hence my football product of choice anyway).
I saw the incident (the beer cup shot at the sideline referee, which hit him pretty good right in the back of his head) while watching the halftime show of today's Wolfsburg-Frankfurt match. Sky Deutschland showed it and I had heard about it through Bundesliga.de the night before, and after seeing it, I thought it was quite a disgusting display of fan misconduct by those who were throwing foreign objects at both him and towards the players on the Schalke bench. I can understand trash-talk, cussing, booing, whistling, and overall supporter frustration, I can defnitely relate to that, but clearly this incident went over the line of even bad taste let alone good taste. Lifetime stadium ban (from any stadium league-wide at that, as they will probably repeat this on the road) for those involved in this incident, and you better give them a straight middle finger from me as well as a straight red card for what they did.
It's official. The DFL has ruled that the home game vs. Werder Bremen shall be without spectators. Unless Pauli wins an appeal. Fat chance of that... It's harsh. But IMO necessary. Perhaps had it ONLY been that one object thrown towards players/refs, I'd merely go with a €750000 fine. But since many objects rained down from the stands, it's not just one bad apple.
Not only do I feel bad for the St. Pauli supporters that wanted to go to this match that wouldn't have caused an issue, I also feel bad for Bremen supporters that might have wanted to travel to Hamburg to attend it.
I also feel bad for the decent fans out there. And the DFB sure doesn't like to pass out such punishments either. But it's just what had to be done. A simple fine wouldn't have sufficed.
So St. Pauli manager Holger Stanislawski has announced to leave the club. Doing this in their current situation (and not at the end of the season), must be a punch in the face of every Pauli fan ... especially when knowing how much faith the supporters had in him. But well, there's nothing to surprise me anymore in today's fast-moving football (where apparently only the big money counts). Good luck in Hoppenheim, Mr. Stanislawski ... and enjoy counting your big money before getting fired.
Before making such mean-spirited and ill-informed remarks about another person, you ought to have actually read up on the matter. Is that really too much to ask??? For, as it happens, St. Pauli actually offered him MORE money than Hoffe! Stanislawski says he's simply burnt out after going full-throttle for years in Hamburg. Fighting with meagre ressources for promotion, against insolveny and of late against relegation simply sucked him of all energy ("wie ausgelutscht"), as much as his heart's with the club, he needs a change of scenery after 18 turbulent years. I really don't see why one should be an ass about that. He's given his all for Pauli and now is moving to a club where the pressure is spread on more shoulders and the ressources equal to the challenge of first-tier football. He's a stand-up guy and deserves a little respect. Come on, show some class.
Come on out an cheer on the Kiezkickers (and start saying farewell to Stani and the 1. Bundesliga) with the FC St. Pauli Fans NYC this evening (7pm EST on tape delay). East River Bar 97 S 6th Street in Williamsburg Brooklyn, New York Forza FCSP! http://www.fcstpaulinyc.com
That's really tough to swallow (reminds me of BMG's 2:8 against Bayerkusen in our 1st relegation season 1998/99). Nevertheless, the brave St. Pauli players (regarded as outsiders no.1 in the league ahead of the season) did a great job until the derby win over HSV! What happened after that game, is hard to explain.
LOOOL. Ok, that's his explanation. Obviously the Pauli fans "buy" it. I personally don't. However, as St. Pauli fan I'd not so much be pissed off about his announcement to leave the club but about the date of this announcement! Leaving the club after relegation is different from announcing to leave the sinking ship when all faithful fans suffered & were still hoping for the rescue. I'm pretty sure that this mistake also affected the team spirit in a negative way... And moving from a "Kultklub" just to Hoppenheim for the sake of €$$€, gets him losing even more credit from my part!
yeah, it was so weird for them to have such a high and then crash and burn. will say that I had fun in the Pauli away section when they played FC Koln earlier in the season. Fun people.
Believe me, their fanbase is the most likeable in whole Germany (no, it doesn't only consist of "far lefties") - at least in my eyes. Anybody who's been at Millerntor and isn't just a right-winger, can surely confirm my statement. You rarely find more passionate, polite, funny and generous supporters in this world (with exception of Celtic-Park. Maybe I'm a little bit biased as Celtic fan & because I know quite a few Pauli fans from my city (what a joy for them that they celebrated their promotion in Fürth last season - invading the pitch & main stand). Of course you'll find some idiots even among their fanship ... but you can definitely count them with both hands.
New Yorkers, come on out and watch FSV Mainz 05 vs FC St. Pauli! Saturday, May 14 · 5:00pm - 11:30pm East River Bar 97 South 6th Street (Between Bedford and Berry) Brooklyn, NY BBQ at East River Bar for last game of the season! Lighting the grill around 5pm. Kick-off (tape-delayed) at 7pm. Come out and chill by the fire. Everyone is welcome. We'll provide vegetarian and carnivorous treats but if you want to bring a little something to share, that's cool too. It's also our last passing-of-the-hat (this season) for CFAR, the AIDS/HIV research program in Africa (http://cfar.med.nyu.edu). We hope to break the $1k mark. It's been a tough season (but so much fun!). Wir sind Zweitklassig. Allez braun-Weiss! Hope to see faces new and old to finish it out in style. YNWA, East River Pirates
Nah, the jerk-to-decent-fan ratio is way higher. Also at Sankt Pauli. Just consider the beer-glas throwing incident. MANY threw such objects at the refs and Schalke players. And it's not like the crowd effectively self-policed itself either, in the first place. If you had only a dozen jerks at a football stadium, you wouldn't need the massive police presence all geared up in riot gear. Certainly, we've come a long way in German football (and in many other European countries) when it comes to football-related violence and bigotry. But football simply attracts also unsavory elements. No need to whitewash matters.
http://mobile.nytimes.com/2015/09/1...occer-clubs-open-their-gates-to-refugees.html Almost all of the fans who passed them were wearing black T-shirts with the image of a skull and crossbones on the front, the emblem widely used by supporters of F.C. St. Pauli, a team in the second tier of German soccer. A few days earlier, St. Pauli, known for its punk-rock ethos and social conscience, had offered 1,000 free tickets for an exhibition this week against Borussia Dortmund to recently arrived migrants, including Ismail and his friends.
If anyone got portuguese speaking friends.. here's an (quite long) article from a journalist visiting Hamburg and St. Pauli. https://medium.com/puntero-izquierdo/st-pauli-o-clube-que-vai-além-b58c69b63cba#.1nxvmhjia
and there is another one about the refugee team of st.pauli called FC Lampedusa: https://medium.com/puntero-izquierd...apoiado-pelo-st-pauli-feb57796ca59#.kvclp4ep6