Favorite Poem Project

Discussion in 'Books' started by Iceblink, Oct 31, 2004.

  1. Iceblink

    Iceblink Member

    Oct 11, 1999
    Chicago
    Club:
    Ipswich Town FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States

    I didn't think so. Anyway, he spoke and recited at the Midwest Literary Festival in Aurora, IL. Rock stars don't play Aurora. I mean, that's where Wayne and Garth were supposed to be from.

    I'll look into some of those other poets.
     
  2. Iceblink

    Iceblink Member

    Oct 11, 1999
    Chicago
    Club:
    Ipswich Town FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Sailing Alone Around the Room is a much better collection.

    Some standouts:

    "I Chop Some Parsley While Listening To Art Blakey's Version Of 'Three Blind Mice'"

    "Nostalgia"

    "Marginalia"

    "Victoria's Secret"

    I'm not sure what book it's in, but his poem "Introduction to Poetry" is great too.
     
  3. coachklowco

    coachklowco New Member

    Jan 27, 2003
    Newark Ohio
    Not positive, but I am pretty sure your talking about 'Picnic, Lightning'

    Any reason why you think Collins thinks of himself as a rock star? Anybody I know who have met him speak pretty highly of him...not just as a poet but as a guy as well. I think he gets a bad rep from some in the poetry circle because he has found some acclaim outside of coffee shops and university circles. The fact that some non-typical poetry readers are reading poetry rubs some the wrong way. Not saying that is you Imposter, just seems to be the whole 'Its cooler if it isn't cool' crap.

    Nine Horses, was a huge disappointment.

    Another poet I have gotten into lately is Jeffrey McDaniel

    The Benjamin Franklin of Monogamy

    Reminiscing in the drizzle of Portland, I notice
    the ring that's landed on your finger, a massive
    insect of glitter, a chandelier shining at the end

    of a long tunnel. Thirteen years ago, you hid the hurt
    in your voice under a blanket and said there's two kinds
    of women—those you write poems about

    and those you don't
    . It's true. I never brought you
    a bouquet of sonnets, or served you haiku in bed.
    My idea of courtship was tapping Jane's Addiction

    lyrics in Morse code on your window at three A.M.,
    whiskey doing push-ups on my breath. But I worked
    within the confines of my character, cast

    as the bad boy in your life, the Magellan
    of your dark side. We don't have a past so much
    as a bunch of electricity and liquor, power

    never put to good use. What we had together
    makes it sound like a virus, as if we caught
    one another like colds, and desire was merely

    a symptom that could be treated with soup
    and lots of sex. Gliding beside you now,
    I feel like the Benjamin Franklin of monogamy,

    as if I invented it, but I'm still not immune
    to your waterfall scent, still haven't developed
    antibodies for your smile. I don't know how long

    regret existed before humans stuck a word on it.
    I don't know how many paper towels it would take
    to wipe up the Pacific Ocean, or why the light

    of a candle being blown out travels faster
    than the luminescence of one that's just been lit,
    but I do know that all our huffing and puffing

    into each other's ears—as if the brain was a trick
    birthday candle—didn't make the silence
    any easier to navigate. I'm sorry all the kisses

    I scrawled on your neck were written
    in disappearing ink. Sometimes I thought of you
    so hard one of your legs would pop out

    of my ear hole, and when I was sleeping, you'd press
    your face against the porthole of my submarine.
    I'm sorry this poem has taken thirteen years

    to reach you. I wish that just once, instead of skidding
    off the shoulder blade's precipice and joyriding
    over flesh, we'd put our hands away like chocolate

    to be saved for later, and deciphered the calligraphy
    of each other's eyelashes, translated a paragraph
    from the volumes of what couldn't be said.
     
  4. bojendyk

    bojendyk New Member

    Jan 4, 2002
    South Loop, Chicago
    I'll add one by August Kleinzahler:

    Diablo: A Recipe

    (for W.S. Di Piero)


    Caro mio, the hot must dwell among the dark
    the orange habanero

    buring like a candle in a terra-cotta jar
    and the onion tuned, just so

    that when the mud commences to bubble, to streak
    and to spit, a barely audible sweetness

    is there too; but still, still
    that torrid little fist commands

    the temperate hand, the wooden spoon, the meats
    nothing will avail

    but patience, as in many things
    in love, say, or with a poem

    but in this the most of all
    for as the first of afternoon's late shadows fall

    and as I-95's muffled rumbling
    ebbs and flows in the distance, crossing the river

    beyond the big beech tree, its leaves flaring gold
    only now, after how many hours

    the meat and marrow slip from the bone
    the dark pasilla and chorizo show

    as currents in a muddy river show
    only a shade or two off

    but careful not to turn the lights on
    or all of it is lost

    for the broth and the room are now as one
    one fabric of shadow

    broken only by the blue flame of the burner
    turned very low

    and so, the moment has come
    for the first, the most important glass of wine

    a big red, why not a Merlot
    because only now, alone in this room

    dark and quiet as a chapel
    the garlic has slowly begun to bloom

    the the wine in the back of your throat
    will be made sonorous by it

    then it is time, after much stirring
    and some contemplation

    to find the appropriate tune
    perhaps one of Schuber's final sonatas

    and take up your spoon once more
    and for the first time taste

    how the ferocious one, the brute
    because of the lily has been seduced

    and burns still, indelibly
    but like the small blue flame in the darkened room
     
  5. tog

    tog Member

    Oct 25, 2000
    Seattle
    No, no, trust me, I fight against this same sentiment in music all the time.

    One thing I should say is that Collins has done an excellent job of providing accessible poetry to a wider audience, and ther is nothing better that a poet can do. And I really really do like some of his work.

    In any case, it's not the Collins hype that I mind, it's that he seems to have bought into the hype, at least some of the time. I'm told it's hit or miss with him. I've seen the misses twice. He'll swoop into a poetry festival or some such event, do his big marquee reading, swoop back out, hardly interact with anybody. Most poets I know are much more accommodating and friendly and genuinely excited to talk to people about poetry and writing and reading. I don't get this from Billy.

    Anyway, there certainly is a bit of a backlash, and I think that's unfortunate, but I also think that his personality has fed it a bit.
     
  6. tog

    tog Member

    Oct 25, 2000
    Seattle
    I like this.
     
  7. tog

    tog Member

    Oct 25, 2000
    Seattle
    More Robert Hass, because sometimes I can't stop reading him.

    Happiness

    Because yesterday morning from the steamy window
    we saw a pair of red foxes across the creek
    eating the last windfall apples in the rain—
    they looked up at us with their green eyes
    long enough to symbolize the wakefulness of living things
    and then went back to eating—

    and because this morning
    when she went into the gazebo with her black pen and yellow pad
    to coax an inquisitive soul
    from what she thinks of as the reluctance of matter,
    I drove into town to drink tea in the café
    and write notes in a journal—mist rose from the bay
    like the luminous and indefinite aspect of intention,
    and a small flock of tundra swans
    for the second winter in a row was feeding on new grass
    in the soaked fields; they symbolize mystery, I suppose,
    they are also called whistling swans, are very white,
    and their eyes are black—

    and because the tea steamed in front of me,
    and the notebook, turned to a new page,
    was blank except for the faint idea of order,
    I wrote: happiness! It is December, very cold,
    we woke early this morning,
    and lay in bed kissing,
    our eyes squinched up like bats
    .
     
  8. LostintheBarrens

    LostintheBarrens New Member

    Nov 4, 2004
    "The old dog barks backward without getting up.
    I can remember when he was a pup."

    Frost
     
  9. royalstilton

    royalstilton Member

    Aug 2, 2004
    SoCal
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  10. tcmahoney

    tcmahoney New Member

    Feb 14, 1999
    Metronatural
    Saw this over at Atrios' blog and I thought I'd share it here:

    Sometimes things don’t go, after all,
    from bad to worse. Some years, muscadel
    faces down frost; green thrives; the crops don’t fail,
    sometimes a man aims high, and all goes well.
    A people sometimes will step back from war;
    elect an honest man; decide they care
    enough, that they can’t leave some stranger poor.
    Some men become what they were born for.
    Sometimes our best efforts do not go
    amiss; sometimes we do as we meant to.
    The sun will sometimes melt a field of sorrow
    that seemed hard frozen: may it happen for you.

    -- Sheenagh Pugh, “Sometimes”"
     
  11. Dr. Wankler

    Dr. Wankler Member+

    May 2, 2001
    The Electric City
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    White Owl flies Into and Out of the Field, by Mary Oliver

    Coming down
    out of the freezing sky
    with its depths of light,
    like an angel,
    or a buddha with wings,
    it was beautiful
    and accurate,
    striking the snow and whatever was there
    with a force that left the imprint
    of thetips of its wings--
    five feet apart--and the grabbing
    thrust of its feet,
    and the indentation of what had been running
    through the white valleys
    of the snow--

    and then it rose, gracefully,
    and flew back to the frozen marshes,
    to lurk there,
    like a little lighthouse,
    in the blue shadows--
    so I thought:
    maybe death
    isn't darkness, after all,
    but so much light
    wrapping itself around us--

    as soft as feathers--
    that we are instantly weary
    of looking, and looking, and shut our eyes,
    not without amazement,
    and let ourselves be carried,
    as through the translucence of mica,
    to the river
    that is without the least dapple or shadow--
    that is nothing but light--scalding, aortal light--
    in which we are washed and washed
    out of our bones.
     
  12. bojendyk

    bojendyk New Member

    Jan 4, 2002
    South Loop, Chicago
    Funny--I was just re-reading this poem the other night. His reading of it is a little too dour, I think (the line "the opera you hate most, the worst music ever invented" is kind of funny, which makes the poem's closing so hearbreaking), but I absolutely love this poem.
     
  13. royalstilton

    royalstilton Member

    Aug 2, 2004
    SoCal
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    ---
    the poignancy of this poem is...savage! it is a merciless indictment of a certain sort of laziness, but the intensity of the love expressed by the narrator redeems the poem completely, IMO.

    i came upon this poem completely by accident, web-surf serependipity at its sweetest.

    i just sat in my office at work ( ha! ) tears pouring down my cheeks. i couldn't leave my office for 10 minutes :D
     
  14. Rui Costa

    Rui Costa New Member

    Nov 9, 2004
  15. basso001

    basso001 Member

    Aug 18, 2002
    Bay Area, Calif.
    Club:
    Sheffield Wednesday FC
    Doctor, the Mary Oliver one you quoted stopped me dead in my tracks when I first read it a few months ago.

    One that's inserted itself into my soul is Wendell Berry's Manifesto: The Mad Farmer Liberation Front.

    b.
     
  16. royalstilton

    royalstilton Member

    Aug 2, 2004
    SoCal
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    ---
    because it's good!

    some of mcdaniels metaphors are astonishing!

    My idea of courtship was tapping Jane's Addiction
    lyrics in Morse code on your window at three A.M.


    to me this portrays in diamond clarity the writer's sense of his own frail absurdity. the only problem with the metaphor is that lots of readers don't know N'Sync from Jane's Addiction, but, hey, that's art, innit?
     
  17. royalstilton

    royalstilton Member

    Aug 2, 2004
    SoCal
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    A Child Gone

    A crumbling sand castle, a rusty shovel, not the pail,
    these were swept away by the ever efficient tide,
    along with one half-buried red sneaker.

    That summer at Pratt island, shutters lightly banging
    on balmy nights, the first discovery of the skulking killer:
    hands that tremble as they fumble at laces,
    knees that shake as they climb the shiny slide.

    Vacant days, serene as swans, erase fragile details
    etched by clever, stubby fingers, by running feet,
    prints and smudges, memories merely loose photographs,
    the edge of a finger painting torn from the fridge,
    bright ribbons, a solitary toy under the empty bed.

    Like gray wolves circling dying embers,
    bright, ravenous eyes glinting with the taste for blood,
    the silent enemy stills muscle, locks nerve,
    penetrates fiber, twists an innocent smile.

    After the funeral, hazy, leaden words,
    You stand alone on the palisade, scan the horizon:
    are those white caps her kisses, is that soft cloud
    the curve of her jaw, is that breeze her last, sweet breath?
     
  18. monster

    monster Member

    Oct 19, 1999
    Hanover, PA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Images
    by Tyrone Green

    Dark and lonely on a summer's night.

    Kill my landlord. Kill my landlord.

    Watchdog barking. Do he bite?

    Kill my landlord. Kill my landlord.

    Slip in his window. Break his neck.

    Then his house I start to wreck.

    Got no reason. What the heck?

    Kill my landlord. Kill my landlord.

    C-I-L my land lord!
     
  19. Dr. Wankler

    Dr. Wankler Member+

    May 2, 2001
    The Electric City
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    I don't know about Green as a poet. When writing in verse, his vision always struck me as rather limited, esp. compared to his reggae albums. I mean, in the poem you quote, it's just "kill my landlord," whereas his reggae song was much more expansive in scope: "kill all da white people / but buy my records first."
     
  20. Norsk Troll

    Norsk Troll Member+

    Sep 7, 2000
    Central NJ
    I don't know. I find his songs pale in comparison to the visceral power of the anonymous prisoner who penned the unforgettable:

    I'm gonna get me a shotgun and kill all the whities I see,
    I'm gonna get me a shotgun and kill all the whities I see.
    When I kill all the whities I see, then whitey he won't bother me,
    I'm gonna get me a shotgun and kill all the whities I see.

    Then I'll get a white woman who's wearing a navy blue sweater ...
     
  21. tog

    tog Member

    Oct 25, 2000
    Seattle
    The problem with that metaphor is that it's not a metaphor.
     
  22. Lanky134

    Lanky134 New Member

    Oct 25, 1999
    134, 3, 6
    Garrett Morris on Saturday Night Live. Awesome.
     
  23. royalstilton

    royalstilton Member

    Aug 2, 2004
    SoCal
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    ---
    quite so: i think i meant 'imagery', though that term may also be stretched a bit.
     
  24. tog

    tog Member

    Oct 25, 2000
    Seattle

    Exactly. It's an image. And a pretty good one.

    I stretch the term metaphor all the time. It's less rigid than people think, but not so loose that it includes things that aren't metaphors at all.
     
  25. royalstilton

    royalstilton Member

    Aug 2, 2004
    SoCal
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    ---
    applying the term metaphor too loosely ultimately does violence to the sense of what one is trying to say, i imagine. i was an Eng Lit major in school, with a creative writing emphasis, so i can usually find my way around these green hills. but thanks for pointing out the error.
     

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