Everyone Else But Us (Other Teams Thread 3) [R]

USA-Mexico friendly is up in less than a week, I am already excited.

 

Check their respective goal figures over their careers to date. I'd have had Defoe at Man Utd. It will be good to see him finally getting regular first team football again.

 

And thats why he isnt worth buying...and certainly not worth a spot at a 'big 4' club.

 

Well, his technique and his pace are probably his strongest points (although is positioning is, except in the most formulaic situations, suspect). But he's renowed as a lousy trainer and for having some pretty serious attitude problems. There's a reason why a string of Spurs managers have preferred the infinitely more talented and disciplined Robbie Keane to him.

 

He is a striker and that is ultimately what matters most. It also highlights why he is better than Benjani. Add to that his other attributes and he is a good option to have. You need to remember that it was Redknapp who originally signed Defoe for West Ham, so he knows exactly what he is getting.

 

The fundamental role of a striker is to score goals. I do not see how anyone can disagree with that. It is even important for strikers who contribute to their teams in other ways because scoring a certain amount of goals outweighs everything else they bring to the side. I have discussed this previously in relation to Van Nistelrooy and Saha. The former provides far more goals but the latter provides more to the team in terms of his style of play (movement, pace, strength). However, if Saha did not contribute an acceptable amount of goals then he would not be in the side regardless of anything else he can provide.

 

Hmm, I agree with Teso on this particular aspect of this discussion.

When given a run of games, Defoe is proven to be more prolific (and he's younger). Benjani, at his peak age right now, is having the best season of his career but that could also be a peak. City have gone for it with a big cash bid - and to a guy like Harry Redknapp, they're plum suckers ripe for the picking.

When you're Portsmouth you need goals to survive. Defoe is likely to match or exceed Benjani's goalscoring contribution for the foreseeable future (which, at 25, is longer than it is with Benjani).

In those terms alone, it's a cracking bit of business for Portsmouth.

 

Nice attempt to change the discussion but ultimately an unsuccessful one. We are discussing strikers not forwards. Whether a team decides to play with a striker or not is irrelevant to what I posted previously.

 

F*** YEAH!!! Spurs are 1-0 up on the scum...21st minute...counter-attack after Man Utd lost the ball, Jenas went from half-way line into the box, recieved a challenge from Hargreaves, ball spilt to Lennon who got to the byline...his cross was badly blocked by VDS to Berbatov who places it in...again...F*** YEAH!!!

 

43' Evra takes a bullet for Ronaldo...(eg relieves Ronaldo of his diving duties)

And those f***in scum continue to argue against decision that are clearly against them...Hargreaves and Ronaldo have argued against handballs when it HIT THEIR HAND...CLEARLY...you bloody sulks

 

Pompey could be beating The Enemy of Football if awarded a PK for Beletti's handball -- no such luck and they slammed one off the crossbar immediately after as well

though a Pompey win isn't exactly in our best interests these days


PS: another Anelka goal -- Baros is back

 

Makelele thrusts a studs up boot into Baros' groin -- no card, of course

 

Tevez scores off a corner in the 94th minute...last kick of the game...the only mistake that Tottenham made throughout the whole game...F***in lucky again Manure

 

A handball created the move that resulted in their tap in goal. I'd call that pretty lucky. We did not play well but still got something from the game. That's the mark of a good team.

 

Stop making excuses...the handball resulted from a clumsy challenge by Hargreaves which shouldve been a penalty...either way, it was going to be a goal for Tottenham. Bad GKing by VDS also contributed...that was a terrible block.

Getting lucky in the last kick of the game isnt the mark of a good team...thats luck. You actually played shit...not one of your players played well and probably 8 or 9 tottenham players deserved a MOTM before any Man Utd player.

 

I don't see any excuses. What I do see is a Liverpool fan having a good old whine because a rival side played poorly but still managed to get something out of the game. Quite how you can claim that our goal was lucky but completely ignore the clear luck involved in their goal is unbelievable.

 

If you call a clumsy challenge and a GK error lucky then your very mistaken.

 

Manchester played like shit and Tottenham played great....until the 93rd minute...and they paid for it. Simple as that.

 

We also scored very late against Spurs this season from a corner. There is a similar theme between todays Spurs - Man U match and Spurs at Arsenal this season. Spurs were leading both 1-0 and Keane missed a great chance to make it 2-0. Both occasions cost Spurs 2 victories.

I only saw the 2nd half but I was very impressed with Hutton. On his Prem debut he certainly looked one of the best defenders on the pitch. If he performs so well consistently he will prove an excellent buy. As it stands, no Scots outfield player has impressed me so much since McAllister!


Also it was interesting to see Chimbonda play at left back. Was this a ploy to counter C Ronaldo who cuts inside when on the right flank?