Pre-match: [EURO 2021 - Group Stage] Germany vs France - 15 June [R]

Discussion in 'Germany: National Teams' started by White/Blue_since1860, Jun 8, 2021.

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Predict the result

  1. Germany Win

    47.4%
  2. Germany Lose

    21.1%
  3. Draw

    31.6%
  1. saj7866

    saj7866 Member+

    Dortmund
    Germany
    May 10, 2014
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
  2. BorisG

    BorisG Member+

    Sep 30, 2009
    Namibia
    Club:
    FC Nürnberg
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
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  3. BorisG

    BorisG Member+

    Sep 30, 2009
    Namibia
    Club:
    FC Nürnberg
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Who ever creates a new thread for the next games maybe create a poll for WIN/DRAW/LOSS

    Thanks
     
  4. BorisG

    BorisG Member+

    Sep 30, 2009
    Namibia
    Club:
    FC Nürnberg
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Agreed , but as per Low he did state - I believe so at least - to play a fast pressing game....or was that Flick?
     
  5. White/Blue_since1860

    Orange14 is gay
    Jan 4, 2007
    Bum zua City
    Club:
    TSV 1860 München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    #55 White/Blue_since1860, Jun 11, 2021
    Last edited: Jun 11, 2021
    I left it out on purpose because I think in those 1 game threads it is better to just post away like there is no tomorrow. And posts can be quoted for bragging rights
     
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  6. saj7866

    saj7866 Member+

    Dortmund
    Germany
    May 10, 2014
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Definitely can't see us pressing them with a high line, it's a complete recipe for disaster with mbappes pace
     
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  7. Alex C

    Alex C Member+

    Oct 27, 2015
    Chatham
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    I also think a draw is most likely given the first game is usually cagey and Deschamps is pretty pragmatic.

    1-1.
     
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  8. BorisG

    BorisG Member+

    Sep 30, 2009
    Namibia
    Club:
    FC Nürnberg
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
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    So far 2 Wins 5 Draws and 3 Losses
     
  9. The Jitty Slitter

    The Jitty Slitter Moderator
    Staff Member

    Bayern München
    Germany
    Jul 23, 2004
    Fascist Hellscape
    Club:
    FC Sankt Pauli
    Nat'l Team:
    Belgium
    Added
     
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  10. The Jitty Slitter

    The Jitty Slitter Moderator
    Staff Member

    Bayern München
    Germany
    Jul 23, 2004
    Fascist Hellscape
    Club:
    FC Sankt Pauli
    Nat'l Team:
    Belgium
    Agreed - and there is also significant tactical difference compared to '18

    In '18 Germany had older, slower players - so committed numbers forwards in a slow, sterile possession against teams that sat back. Then of course germany got hit on the break like suckers - e.g. the hilarious sight of Ozil trying to defend a counter in his own box because the likes of kimmich, sami K etc were miles up field

    This time Germany have pace in attack so will prefer to sit back themselves, and likely press in the medium trap

    Given the talent France have in midfield and at the back, they may actually see more possession - which would suit germany
     
  11. BorisG

    BorisG Member+

    Sep 30, 2009
    Namibia
    Club:
    FC Nürnberg
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Germany has real speed upfront... hence I still think that at one point we should bring Werner on just to make those runs and setup a Muller or so to net in
     
  12. saj7866

    saj7866 Member+

    Dortmund
    Germany
    May 10, 2014
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Agree, Werner been deadly for Chelsea on counters, it's his runs that caused havoc against city in the champions league final
     
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  13. dips82

    dips82 Member+

    Oct 11, 2013
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Are you going to chew your hat if Germany wins the whole thing? You had made a similar statement in 2014 and added that in your signature after Germany won the World Cup
     
  14. dips82

    dips82 Member+

    Oct 11, 2013
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    4:2 is my prediction in favor of Germany
     
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  15. White/Blue_since1860

    Orange14 is gay
    Jan 4, 2007
    Bum zua City
    Club:
    TSV 1860 München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Technically, France are the home side
     
  16. SF19

    SF19 Member+

    Jun 8, 2013
    Having 5 subs changes a lot. It makes things that much more unpredictable.

    Hummels has some quality on the ball. Lately it has become common for teams to create width, cycle the ball, and then play long passes out of the back through the middle via a ball playing center-back. Even if teams lose the ball, at least they lose it deep in the opposition's half and they can press opponents to win back the ball or force an error. I've seen Greece do this to remarkable effect under our Dutch manager van't Schip.

    Werner has had confidence issues. Reminds me a lot of Torres at Chelsea. Vialli, Shevchenko... there are quite a few great strikers who have struggled at Chelsea over the years. Hopefully he turns a page like Havertz seems to be doing now.

    Portugal's midfield isn't quite as dominant as France. I think Germany can probably afford to keep things a little more even against them. France however will be difficult. Pogba is a little like Pirlo and can control the park with his passing. Kante shields the defense and allows France to add numbers elsewhere, be it up front or in defense. With him on the park, it's like having a 12th player. That French engine room will be hard to beat.
     
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  17. dips82

    dips82 Member+

    Oct 11, 2013
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Isn’t that Germany dominated French midfield in 2016 having Emre Can on the field?
     
  18. Aderthan

    Aderthan Member+

    Schwarz weiss essen
    Germany
    Nov 17, 2020
    Jogi always likes the surprise element aka giving relatively an inexperience player a chance in a big game. He done this before (Rolfes against Portugal Euro 08, Mustafi WC 14, Can EC 16). So we might see Neuhaus in first 11 v France.
     
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  19. rj123

    rj123 Member

    The team with the most German NT players
    Germany
    Nov 21, 2010
    Winnipeg, MB
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    France by 2, either 2-0 or 3-1
     
  20. Aderthan

    Aderthan Member+

    Schwarz weiss essen
    Germany
    Nov 17, 2020
    I'm going for a shock 2-1 win for Germany. Kai with a header and a golazo from Kimmich.
     
  21. BorisG

    BorisG Member+

    Sep 30, 2009
    Namibia
    Club:
    FC Nürnberg
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
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  22. Ator

    Ator Member

    SC Freiburg
    Germany
    Mar 19, 2021
    I would fight for the team until I die. It's just France, it can't be that hard. Come on, boys!

    (Obviously slightly hyped.)
     
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  23. AdiD

    AdiD Member

    Mar 11, 2011
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Hello! I have not posted here since many years though I have been reading a lot of the posts, especially recently.

    I have a thought about the the midfield discussion and that the german midfield will be overrunned with Kroos and Gündogan. I am guessing that Löw is thinking that France usually dont press that hard (like Spain did 6-0) and that Kroos and Gündogan are safe with the ball. From what i have seen France often winns the ball and counter from their own half. Löw might think that these players rarely loses the ball and want to minimize those oppurtunities for France. Compared to f. Eg. Can who gives away the ball ocassionally. Hard to tell of its a successfull move though.
     
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  24. BVBFNM

    BVBFNM Member+

    Apr 3, 2016
    Club:
    Borussia Dortmund
    Tuesday can't come soon enough.
     
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  25. The Jitty Slitter

    The Jitty Slitter Moderator
    Staff Member

    Bayern München
    Germany
    Jul 23, 2004
    Fascist Hellscape
    Club:
    FC Sankt Pauli
    Nat'l Team:
    Belgium
    .this is what I think as well. The risk is on the counter
     

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