Pre-match: (EURO 2016 - Semi Final!) Germany vs France 7.7.2016 [R]

And incorporate Weigl asap!!!

 

He's an 1860 boy so....

 

Well, we have beaten ourselfs last night. Clearly. France was good on the counter, but that´s about it. Aside from the once again atrocious penalty call, we had this game in our hands from minute 10 upwards. It was clear that we somehow suffered up front from having three holding mids in our 11, but we controlled the midfield all the time.

I am far from being a Loew fan, but I´d say the only thing you can criticize in his tactics was to bring on Sané this late. I have a feeling that he might have done miracles to our offense if he came on a little earlier.

What´s the aftermath of this tourny: Matthaus Sammer sumed it up quite well in my opinion. Overall, our tournament was good. Not really good, but good. I would guess Schweini will probably retire from the Nati now, so should Poldi (but never will, as we all know). Let the no. 9 project die once and for all, and establish some of the new gunz in the course of the next 2 years.

Reflecting the EC as a whole: I have never, ever, had this less of interest in an Euro as this year. I dunno why this really is, if it was because of the extended stack of teams or anything else. I just couldn´t care less about this tournament somehow. Looking forward to some club footbal again now.

 

1860 has to come forward and save Germany yet again

 

Id say in Löw's current system the wingbacks are the mos important position and for that we only fielded average there. Normally youd put your best players there but they are just not there. So why this system in the first place?

 

The whole system of possession is directed at the moment when a diagonal ball is played towards one of the fullbacks who is then ought to play the ball into the box. Comparable to Tuchels or Peps systems. Kimmich is a greenhorn and not a winger and Hector is 26 and hasnt played a single minute of CL. It is not just the striker problem. It is a striker and fullbacks problem and we all know about it

 

BTW. thanx @Lahmfan for your thread opener abilities. Think you know that it's been the last time

 

Still can't understand all this drama about us playing badly. Did we really suck? Not total mayhem, but a lot of other forum members complaining about us being poor.
Can't understand that, IMO we played very well, France( intentionally or not doesn't matter) looked like any other random European side vs us and we were hit by injuries big time. I am not very egoistic and do not like to say out bold statements, but i think without Piggy's ********up, we win the game easy. Add our injured players(and Hummels) and this wouldn't even be a contest.
I really really liked how we played and i can't express how proud i am of this team. Kimmich isn't RB, but he did alright, his offensive part was a bit weak, but overall i think solid. Weiser would've been a better option on attack i think. Hector basically the same, just left foot and nothing more. Pretty 1 dimensional player and what bothered me yesterday was that he didn't even try to take on Sagna or put in crosses.. Just those passes with Özil and Kroos.
Oh and those diagonal balls from Boateng and Kroos were just sublime. Had we had some threat from wings, we would've murdered them. Bellarabi in the left and Sane on the right would've been fatal.
Just my thoughts after waking up. Still feeling a bit sad about the result, but i am still ********ing happy about how we played and this team is ********ing amazing.
Curious to see what's gonna happen with Kimmich at Bayern and hope Hector improves his offense and Weiser or someone else develops into a great RB.
Oh and if someone didn't get it, i ********ing love this team to death <3.

 

My conclusion is it was fatal for low only taking one out and out forward, clearly last night Germany were lacking a quality center forward, they had France on toast, come next world cup qualifying matches Germany need to bring fresh personnel in to freshen things up and replace the injury prone
Schweinsteiger is done
Khedira is injury prone
Gotze needs to be dropped
Reus is injury prone
Podolski out
Shurlle out
Gomez ?
Germany need to replace these guys and make sure they use no injury prone players for the world cup qualifiers

 

TEAM FOR 2018.....
NEUER Should still be good
Defenders:
Kimmich Hector, Boa Hummels Badstuber Rudiger , Mustafi, DURm etc...
Midfield.
Weigl, Kroos, Gundogan, Kramer, CAN
Attacking players
Muller, Draxler, Sane, Oezil, Reus and hopefully some others

 

Hope you don't get your hopes too high for Badstuber, just saying. Try Tah or Süle instead.

 

dont know why Low started playing more defensive formations in this euro. Ok vs Italy i understand but vs France instead of playing our game 2 midfielder Ozil infront of them and two wingers we decide to go with 3 midfielders one of them being Schweini and another one being Can who probably never played as a midfielder for germany. So we end up having Ozil infront of them roaming to the right sometimes and Muller who was very bad the entire euro plus without much support from the wings this year he and Lewandowski havent done sh it.

We won the WC playing like that and suddenly Low decides to go ultra defensive and having the possesion but creating zero chances like watching Bayern under Pep in the CL semis.

Schweini and Poldi should just retire from the NT maybe even Low if he continues to play the same players over and over again instead of preparing younger players in the qualifications and then give them a chance in the tournament.

Players like Tah,Kimmich,Weigl,Sane,Brandt, should get more games from now on. We need FB too , Kimmich is ok vs weaker teams but he is not a RB vs good wingers and Hector is just a average FB going forward and back.

 

Mustafi was the reason germany lost. His situation vs pogda was the worst challenge i ever seen. He was more responsible for the goal then neuer or kimmich.

 

TBH I didn't expect a lot out of this team going in..

Transition period, key players injured, terrible form the last 2 years, unfit players.

We managed to do well despite some flaws on our team.

But the fact that THIS team managed to grind it out until the semis is a good sign.

I honestly wasn't as excited for this tournament then usual, I think the format change really killed it for me. It's like I knew none of the matches had any real ramifications until the KO round.

This game itself it seems like it just wasn't our day, neither team played great and a mistake or 2 cost the entire game and tournament.

Germany have to have their players healthy for the next one and solve the striker situation ASAP. They also need to have the FB situation fixed as well.


Now on to the club season, I won't bother watching the final..

 

Euro 2016 - the hand at the balls of Euros

 

I was nervous about this match for several reasons and in the end Germany just couldn't overcome several obstacles:

-Injuries to Reus, Khedira, Gomez and Boateng in-game; Hummels suspended

-Lack of a clinical striker

-The physical and emotional toll of beating Italy after 120 minutes and an epic penalty shootout; while France breezed past a weaker Iceland team.

-France playing at home

-The array of talent that Dechamps has at his disposal is impressive. There is a star player at almost every position. When you can bring in a stalwart defensive mid with a lead like Kante for Payet, and then Gicnac for Giroud, and Cabaye for Griezemann - they have very few weaknesses to exploit. And as a Spurs fan I know Lloris' capabilities - he showed off most them last night.

It was a testament to Germany's quality that they were able to own possession and even dominate at times - especially in the first half. A penalty awarded just before halftime was very fortunate for France, and Griezemann's second was a bit of luck as he struck it straight at the center of goal and the ball found it's way through Neuer's legs.

As the above poster said, it wasn't their day.