Euro 2016 Qualification Thread.

Discussion in 'The Netherlands' started by DRB300, Jul 14, 2014.

  1. Brilliant Dutch

    Brilliant Dutch Member+

    Ajax
    Netherlands
    Oct 14, 2013
    Amsterdam, Holland
    Nat'l Team:
    Netherlands
    You can see how well that 3-5-2 is working for United
     
  2. PuckVanHeel

    PuckVanHeel Member+

    Oct 4, 2011
    Club:
    Feyenoord
    #127 PuckVanHeel, Aug 30, 2014
    Last edited: Aug 30, 2014
    This is a very good aspect to look at. What are they doing better? What is their advantage? Two key variables, population and GDP do not favour them.

    Why are they able to sell their players for 30 million figures?

    Why is Rojo sold for more money than Blind?
     
  3. Orange14

    Orange14 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Apr 27, 2007
    Bethesda, MD
    Club:
    AFC Ajax
    Nat'l Team:
    Netherlands
    Well they did keep a clean sheet today!;)
     
  4. LouisianaViking07/09

    Aug 15, 2009
    Where are Van Wolfswinkel/Bas Dost/Luke De Jong?
     
  5. Orange14

    Orange14 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Apr 27, 2007
    Bethesda, MD
    Club:
    AFC Ajax
    Nat'l Team:
    Netherlands
    They are all playing mediocre football.
     
  6. thatkid

    thatkid Member

    Jun 21, 2010
    Netherlands
    Club:
    --other--
    Nat'l Team:
    Netherlands
    Those are not the names that were ever going to replace van Persie. They were supposed to succeed Huntelaar, but they are nowhere near his class.. Not even close.
     
  7. Brilliant Dutch

    Brilliant Dutch Member+

    Ajax
    Netherlands
    Oct 14, 2013
    Amsterdam, Holland
    Nat'l Team:
    Netherlands
    Rumor out of Manchester:

    vPersie might need knee surgery
     
  8. Brilliant Dutch

    Brilliant Dutch Member+

    Ajax
    Netherlands
    Oct 14, 2013
    Amsterdam, Holland
    Nat'l Team:
    Netherlands
    Clasie, Vaart, Robben and Huntelaar have all pulled out upcoming Oranje games with injuries.

    Lets hope vPersie makes it
     
  9. Orange14

    Orange14 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Apr 27, 2007
    Bethesda, MD
    Club:
    AFC Ajax
    Nat'l Team:
    Netherlands
    ^^isn't van Persie scheduling knee surgery?
     
  10. Brilliant Dutch

    Brilliant Dutch Member+

    Ajax
    Netherlands
    Oct 14, 2013
    Amsterdam, Holland
    Nat'l Team:
    Netherlands
    Still a rumor at this point.

    Do you have a legit source??
     
  11. DRB300

    DRB300 Member+

    Sep 21, 2007
    Nat'l Team:
    Netherlands
    Narsingh, van Dijk and van der Wiel all in due to others being unable to play.
     
  12. DRB300

    DRB300 Member+

    Sep 21, 2007
    Nat'l Team:
    Netherlands
    I don't like this preparation already. We already play a Euro qualification game against the Czech after the Italy friendly and some key players are missing.
     
  13. Radu Razvan

    Radu Razvan Member+

    Mar 1, 2013
    Bucharest, Romania
    Club:
    AS Roma
    Nat'l Team:
    Romania
    Glad to see Narshingh back. He was very good in the start of the last campaign, with that nice goal against Turkey.
     
  14. DRB300

    DRB300 Member+

    Sep 21, 2007
    Nat'l Team:
    Netherlands
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  15. Brilliant Dutch

    Brilliant Dutch Member+

    Ajax
    Netherlands
    Oct 14, 2013
    Amsterdam, Holland
    Nat'l Team:
    Netherlands
  16. nurvin

    nurvin Member

    Feb 11, 2011
    It's strange that van Ginkel hasn't been called; is it because he hasn't earned enough play time yet?
     
  17. DRB300

    DRB300 Member+

    Sep 21, 2007
    Nat'l Team:
    Netherlands
    Line up vs Italy:

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    Kuyt on the wing, Depay on the bench

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  18. Laurent75

    Laurent75 Member

    Aug 2, 2014
    That's why I mentionned the idea to take a foreign coach. No matter how good dutch coachs are supposed to be, I just feel that most of their choices suck and aren't exciting enough. No matter if Holland beats Italy with such a system, I guess 80 % of dutch people would prefer to see Depay than Kuyt. But coachs don't do it.

    I felt Van Basten was the only one to take risks and to count on the youth and crazyiness, without his job I don't think that Van Marwijk would have reached WC finale after.

    I honestly had hopes on Hiddink, but his first selection and this line-up are already proving me wrong, going for Kuyt and Lens while you have Depay, Elia, John, Narsingh, Promes...just show that he isn't going for the youth and for the changes. Let's not to forget that his last international aventure with Turkey was a big flop.
     
  19. DRB300

    DRB300 Member+

    Sep 21, 2007
    Nat'l Team:
    Netherlands
    One thing though:

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    Did not have a bad start.
     
  20. gabriel_guilarte

    Aug 16, 2014
    Club:
    AFC Ajax
    I agreed 100% with Laurent. It is better for us that Depay starts to gain some confidence and responsabilities with the NT, specially if Robben is out, Depay is the future of sure and not Kuyt, besides, is a friendly right? I would like to give it a shot to Depay against Abate for example since last time he didnt played too great against him. I like to check if Depay has improved againts fastest full backs, and not exactly if Kuyt plays or not.
    On the other hand I do hope DRB line up will be correct and Wijnaldum starts ahead of Blind in midfield, Wijnaldum can be a very good player in that position IMO. Lets hope so!
    Cheers!
     
  21. MrOranjeBal

    MrOranjeBal Member

    Apr 7, 2009
    Club:
    AZ
    Nat'l Team:
    Netherlands
    Or, perhaps, Guus grants Kuijt another game as a sort of graceful end to his intl. carreer in a rather meaningless friendly after he performed so well in Brazil. He's basically said: "he's fit and available so I'm not going to shelve him just yet. This is how we will start against Italy and had the next opponent been the Czechs I would've started like that as well. But that doesn't mean we will start like this next week..." Kinda cryptic...

    Guus is close with PSV so he'll know what Depay has to offer. I won't be surprised if Depay features against the Czechs in the first qualifying match.
     
  22. onzie77

    onzie77 Member

    May 18, 2012
    Club:
    AFC Ajax
    Nat'l Team:
    Netherlands
    so are you telling me that van gaal didn't take risks, or count on young players. please enlighten me on how he only started old players.
     
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  23. onzie77

    onzie77 Member

    May 18, 2012
    Club:
    AFC Ajax
    Nat'l Team:
    Netherlands
    yes i do feel that we will return to the safe 4-2-3-1

    i saw lazio vs ac milan and i saw a few porto games, bruno martins indi is playing really good. and de vrij is too slow making turns, but his anticipation is good. lazio kind of got screwed out of that game by the referees though, if bruno martins indi keeps it up, he's gonna be a top defender.
     
  24. gabriel_guilarte

    Aug 16, 2014
    Club:
    AFC Ajax
    Very happy to ear your report about Indi, maybe Porto will sell him for 35 MM and then people will realize that the dutch players are top players!
     
  25. DRB300

    DRB300 Member+

    Sep 21, 2007
    Nat'l Team:
    Netherlands
    Wanted to post quickly, but I think we will just play DM-Runner-Passer model:

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    Wijnaldum connecting defense with attack, being his dynamic self. My focus will be if he is able to track back the whole game. Will his man score/setup a goal? At the WC he played very conservative, I think that might be slightly different now. We will see.

    De Vrij caused some goals in his first game. Had some good interventions, however now spaces are less tight as at the WC his errors rise above again. I agree with his turning. That will never improve I reckon. Too bad.

    I don't know what the level of opposition has been for BMI so far, but I will be amazed if he turns into a top defender. Not good enough in finding the football solution when under pressure and defensive not free of mistakes either. He is also pretty small for a defender and lacks top speed.

    I have more faith in the generation after him, including Kongolo, Rekik, Ake etc. But ... BMI is a really good guy in the group. I think he has a positive effect on moral. Good for the group process. If he pulls it off in terms of raising his quality, then we add a good guy for creating a more optimal tournament atmosphere with the players.
     

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