England Senior Team General Discussion Thread

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  1. roverman

    roverman Member+

    Dec 22, 2001
    southgate says the mischievous three might not be available for any of the games. So I would assume that grealish will certainly start all 3 plus saka at leftback
     
  2. roverman

    roverman Member+

    Dec 22, 2001
    France look the shit. Their strength in depth is unreal. Theyre certainly the team to beat. Spain look average, so many average players.
     
  3. Wendigo7

    Wendigo7 Member+

    Bournemouth
    England
    Mar 31, 2015
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    Manchester United FC
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    England
    Friendlies...
     
  4. AJ123

    AJ123 Member+

    Man Utd
    England
    Feb 17, 2018
    So we’ve got the mischievous three, the bio-bubble two and the Greek one. Not the best start to the campaign on the behaviour front.
     
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  5. MrSnrub

    MrSnrub Member+

    Oct 7, 2018
    #11455 MrSnrub, Oct 7, 2020
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    I would agree about Spain. On paper their worst side in a long, long time.
     
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  6. roverman

    roverman Member+

    Dec 22, 2001
    When I said the shit. I meant damn good
     
  7. MrSnrub

    MrSnrub Member+

    Oct 7, 2018
    My apologies, complete misread that post!
     
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  8. roverman

    roverman Member+

    Dec 22, 2001
    I take back what I said about mbappe. Hes really starting to shine for france now. Still think Greenwood can be as good as him in a couple of years
     
  9. BarryfromEastenders

    Staff Member

    Jul 6, 2008
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  10. BarryfromEastenders

    Staff Member

    Jul 6, 2008
    Looks like it will be 3-4-3. DCL and Saka look to be starting.

    SportsMail potential team -

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  11. BarryfromEastenders

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    Jul 6, 2008
  12. sharpovic

    sharpovic Member+

    May 20, 2010
    That's pretty ordinary on paper but when there's Jack Grealish there's hope. I hope that Winks plays.
     
  13. roverman

    roverman Member+

    Dec 22, 2001
    I would say exciting. Saka at left back. Reece james at rightback. Grealish and dcl up front. Shame the centre midfield looks poor
     
  14. TitoTata

    TitoTata Member+

    Jun 26, 2014
    It’s dangerous to assume anything with Mr Cautious
     
  15. TitoTata

    TitoTata Member+

    Jun 26, 2014
    Not too far off mine !!

    Don’t rate Ward Prowse though
     
  16. Gaz811

    Gaz811 Member+

    Everton FC
    England
    Oct 15, 2018
    Christ not many senior caps in that side. Whos going to be captain, Keane?

    edit
    4 debuts?
     
  17. sharpovic

    sharpovic Member+

    May 20, 2010
    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/f...te-insists-England-stick-3-4-3-formation.html
    not impressed with Southgate's explanations. He's obssessed about keeping clean sheets great but he doesn't think the right way IMO. The more time you spend in your opponent's half the less likely you're gonna concede. I find him more and more annoying, he's overthinking it. He must accept that he's not a great tactician and think about playing good players, not trying to copy the tactical systems that worked for other teams.
     
  18. wellno

    wellno Member+

    Jul 31, 2016
    That's a very England B XI.
     
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  19. BarryfromEastenders

    Staff Member

    Jul 6, 2008
    Yeah, four debuts.

    Considering the schedule I’m not sure there is much choice. Unless you play this type of team in one of the other three games.
     
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  20. BarryfromEastenders

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    Jul 6, 2008
    He always talks about needing ‘balance’ but continuously sacrifices it in matches for large periods because his systems are flawed for long spells in games. It’s either ultra defensive or very open play.

    He’s never going to be able to solve this because he’s just not a good enough coach or good at identifying individual needs in specific areas of the pitch. You can’t watch someone make the same mistakes over and over. Then expect things to be any different.
     
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  21. MrSnrub

    MrSnrub Member+

    Oct 7, 2018
    Shock horror....I'm in complete agreement with you here.

    England have never looked particularly convincing with 3 at the back. We have almost no attacking threat. The argument we look any better defensively is not a good one because we end up on the backfoot a lot more. The biggest problem is the midfield just gets completely overran.

    All that will happen trying this is we will struggle to score against weaker teams, and against better teams they will overrun us in midfield, push the wing backs back, and the front 3 will be left completely isolated as our increasingly panicked centre backs hoof the ball.
     
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  22. Gaz811

    Gaz811 Member+

    Everton FC
    England
    Oct 15, 2018
    #11472 Gaz811, Oct 7, 2020
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    I don't have a problem with the players. Its the lack of caps. The front 3 have one cap between them,the midfield 2 have four caps and the full backs have none.
     
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  23. BarryfromEastenders

    Staff Member

    Jul 6, 2008
    Michael Keane would have the same amount of caps (10) as the rest of the other players combined in that team.
     
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  24. Gaz811

    Gaz811 Member+

    Everton FC
    England
    Oct 15, 2018
    Saying all this we'll probably smash the Welsh 5-0. ;)
     
  25. Jenks

    Jenks Member+

    Feb 16, 2013
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    Ward-Prowse will find himself in all kinds of trouble in that system. I would like to think Southgate would learn from it but if he hasn't already then I doubt he ever will.
     

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