England Senior Team General Discussion Thread

Discussion in 'England' started by BarryfromEastenders, Jul 11, 2018.

  1. TitoTata

    TitoTata Member+

    Jun 26, 2014
    If he can replace Dier in the team then get him fast tracked !!
     
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  2. greengrass81

    greengrass81 BigSoccer Yellow Card

    Manchester United
    Aug 2, 2015
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Barkley from what Chelsea fans say has been ordinary . I don't he think will ever become a top player.

    Will Hughes is played out of position for Watford and won't be in the reckoning for a call up until he play's in central midfield.

    Sturridge hasn't kicked a ball for three years. It's too early for a call up.
     
  3. greengrass81

    greengrass81 BigSoccer Yellow Card

    Manchester United
    Aug 2, 2015
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Rice is Irish . He is going to play for us.
     
  4. W.A.S.P.

    W.A.S.P. Member+

    Sep 20, 2012
    St. Louis
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    Sturridge has been in good form this season playing seven matches and scoring four goals. His match fitness should be fine for a game if he comes on as a sub unless Rashford is deployed as a No. 9.

    Why does it matter what Spurs fans think of Barkley? I think with the injuries we currently have, he's proven enough to earn a callup. I wouldn't mind a callup for Maddison as well. Grealish is another one too, but I don't see it happening.
     
  5. greengrass81

    greengrass81 BigSoccer Yellow Card

    Manchester United
    Aug 2, 2015
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    I wasn't aware that Sturridge was in good form . Perhaps he deserves a call up .

    As regards Barkley I think you mean Chelsea fans. I have seen Barkley play quite a bit this season and he doesn't influence games enough . He plays too many sideways passes and doesn't impose himself on games. Most of all I don't think he has the football intelligence.

    I have never seen Barkley play in the flesh . But an everton fan i know has and has seen him play many times and he says Barkley has no movement off the ball, he just lets game pass him . Reckons he has no chance of becoming a top player
     
  6. TitoTata

    TitoTata Member+

    Jun 26, 2014
    My mistake with Spurs ;)

    I'd build an England team AROUND Grealish !!
     
  7. ChristianSur

    ChristianSur Member+

    May 5, 2015
    Club:
    Sheffield Wednesday FC
    You have fundamentally misunderstood the meaning of "paddy fields".
     
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  8. greengrass81

    greengrass81 BigSoccer Yellow Card

    Manchester United
    Aug 2, 2015
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    A championship player. ‍♂️‍♂️‍♂️
     
  9. JRSG

    JRSG Member+

    Mar 25, 2015
    Club:
    Torquay United
    Do you actually follow football?
     
  10. Placid Casual

    Placid Casual Member+

    Apr 2, 2004
    Bentley's Roof
    You are terrible at this.
     
  11. TitoTata

    TitoTata Member+

    Jun 26, 2014
    He's not THAT far off to be fair ..

    I had high hopes for Barkley years ago but for whatever reasons he simply hasn't progressed .. he's even gone backwards tbh .

    Sturridge will always be injury prone just like Jack Wilshere ..
     
  12. TitoTata

    TitoTata Member+

    Jun 26, 2014
    Wasn't Cantona a championship player when ManU took him from Leeds for £1 million ??
     
  13. Placid Casual

    Placid Casual Member+

    Apr 2, 2004
    Bentley's Roof
    No. He wasn't.

    It was the season after Leeds won the league. Unless that is what you mean by championship player.
     
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  14. David Brooks

    David Brooks Member

    Jun 23, 2017
    You are right, of course, but there have been plenty of tier 2 players who have played for England. I still remember Stevie Bull!
    It's interesting, but I think there's a lot of good English talent in the Championship right now and you could put together a pretty solid team together. How about this for example: Butland; James, Tomori, Shawcross, Gibbs; Livermore, Dack; Powell, Mount, Grealish; Abraham. There have been worse England teams than that.
     
  15. Jenks

    Jenks Member+

    Feb 16, 2013
    Club:
    --other--
    I'm not sure there have been.
     
  16. lanman

    lanman BigSoccer Supporter

    Aug 30, 2002
    Peter Taylor made his England debut when playing in Division 3
     
  17. Placid Casual

    Placid Casual Member+

    Apr 2, 2004
    Bentley's Roof
    Yep. Plenty of players.

    Not quite sure we should build the team around one of them though. Especially one who has no goals and one assist in 11 games this season.
     
  18. David Brooks

    David Brooks Member

    Jun 23, 2017
    There really have. Heck there have been some from the third tier, like Johnny Byrne. But second tier caps include Kenny Samson, Peter Taylor, Reg Matthews, Rodney Marsh and Bull (Wolves had just been promoted from the old D3 to 2 at the time if I recall correctly). In recent times there's been Butland, Michael Gray, Kevin Phillips, David Nudent and Jay Boythroyd.

    Or do you mean there have been worse England teams than the one I suggested!?
     
  19. greengrass81

    greengrass81 BigSoccer Yellow Card

    Manchester United
    Aug 2, 2015
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Winks has been awful tonight . I don't get the hype with this guy . All he does is play sideways and backwards passes . He can't find space . Pochettino reckons he is the english inesta . Absolute joke .

    England's best hope is Will Hughes . Lewis Cook is also better than Winks.
     
  20. Marcho Gamgee

    Marcho Gamgee Member+

    Apr 25, 2015
    Somewhere in English Arrogance land
    Club:
    Manchester City FC
    Yeah, let’s write him because of a game against Barcelona of all Clubs. Get a grip man!
     
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  21. greengrass81

    greengrass81 BigSoccer Yellow Card

    Manchester United
    Aug 2, 2015
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    I must admit winks improved in the second half . I will reserve my judgement until he plays more games.

    Am I alone in thinking that Will Hughes has more potential ?.
     
  22. sharpovic

    sharpovic Member+

    May 20, 2010
    Very wrong. On the contrary Winks is very good at finding players between the lines and playing forward. Going through a rough spell atm, following an injury nightmare that could turn into something as problematic as Wilshere from what I've heard.
     
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  23. BarryfromEastenders

    Staff Member

    Jul 6, 2008
    Winks did fine. Nothing amazing but with more games he should be OK and he’s looking better the longer games go. That’s a good sign. Hopefully he stays injury free. Wasn’t really the best system or opponent to get the best out of him either when you consider how little game time he’s had so far.
     
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  24. TopBanana10

    TopBanana10 Member+

    Millwall
    England
    Sep 8, 2018
    Thought Winks did really well. Hope he gets a call up over Delph.
     
  25. Naughtius Maximus

    Jul 10, 2001
    Shropshire
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    Hasn't he been out for months?
     

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