England Senior National Team General Discussion Thread

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  1. MrSnrub

    MrSnrub Member+

    Oct 7, 2018
    Gordon will be in with a chance, not sure how much Bowen's poor performances when he was called up will be held against him (not that really anyone looked any good in those Nations League games).

    I'd be a bit surprised if we don't see a few more of the under 21 winning squad given a chance this break. We don't really vary September squads much given the season has just started but the October squads usually see a bit of change. Jones, Gordon, Gomes should all have decent chances. Probably a break too soon for Ramsey.
     
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  2. Gaz811

    Gaz811 Member+

    Everton FC
    England
    Oct 15, 2018
    Curtis Jones would be my guess.
     
  3. Fireburn47

    Fireburn47 Member+

    West Ham United
    England
    Nov 5, 2021


    Likely no proper full time left back for the next two squads now with Shaw and Chilwell both out.
     
  4. Fireburn47

    Fireburn47 Member+

    West Ham United
    England
    Nov 5, 2021
    #6779 Fireburn47, Oct 3, 2023
    Last edited: Oct 3, 2023
    I think Southgate himself has forgotten all about those nations league matches,

    From his comments last time Gomes seems like someone he would only call if there was an enforced absence and as it stands Rice, Bellingham, Phillips, Henderson and Gallagher are all available. Same might apply to Jones. Gordon might get in because of Eze being absent.

    I doubt he will do it but he should rest Saka in November.

     
  5. Inter Row Z

    Inter Row Z Member+

    Oldham Athletic
    England
    Mar 26, 2023
    I agree, the Under 21 lads deserve to be in there ahead of the likes of Bowen and Ward-Prowse, who had their chance and simply didn't take it.

    I'm really not convinced that Gareth Southgate is easily going to forgot the underwhelming display of Jarrod Bowen in the 4-0 loss to Hungary.

    Nor would it surprise me if Southgate selects a similar 23/24 to the September fixtures. After all, there are enough questions surrounding fringe players like Foden, Trent, Colwill and Gallagher - and the positions they should play - to make the Australia friendly a fascinating watch.
     
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  6. Fireburn47

    Fireburn47 Member+

    West Ham United
    England
    Nov 5, 2021
    Are Foden and Trent fringe players? Their position might be debated but to me fringe players are the ones who might scrap in the Euros or might not. Could just about apply to Trent but does anyone think Foden is going to miss out?
     
  7. Inter Row Z

    Inter Row Z Member+

    Oldham Athletic
    England
    Mar 26, 2023
    Fringe players. Reserve players. Non starters. Whatever you want to call them, I wouldn't expect them to be in Southgate's first Xl for the Italy game.
     
  8. Fireburn47

    Fireburn47 Member+

    West Ham United
    England
    Nov 5, 2021
    Probably not (Through if Saka needs a rest Foden will be in) I wouldn’t say anyone who is not in the 11 is automatically Fringe.
     
  9. Fireburn47

    Fireburn47 Member+

    West Ham United
    England
    Nov 5, 2021


    John Stones is back. Presumably will be called up through with two months out he will be rusty.
     
  10. Inter Row Z

    Inter Row Z Member+

    Oldham Athletic
    England
    Mar 26, 2023
    If this is not a fringe then I don't know what is
    fodens_fringe.jpg
     
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  11. Fireburn47

    Fireburn47 Member+

    West Ham United
    England
    Nov 5, 2021
  12. Fireburn47

    Fireburn47 Member+

    West Ham United
    England
    Nov 5, 2021
    Saka and Rice start for Arsenal in the CL but White and Nketiah are dropped to the bench and Ramsdale remains the bench,

    For Man United Mount and Rashford both start but Maguire is on the bench.


    I wonder how this will affect his England chances. Will miss two of the three PL matches between the upcoming squad and Announcement the November one, If he gets called up on Thursday might be a first making your debut during a period covering a league suspension.
     
  13. horrisengleton

    horrisengleton Member+

    Arsenal
    England
    Jul 18, 2023
    Valencia, Spain
    I think if Southgate was planning to call him up then this red card won’t have affected his chances of being in Thursday’s squad but if he wasn’t then he’s got very little chance of getting in until 2024.
     
  14. Gaz811

    Gaz811 Member+

    Everton FC
    England
    Oct 15, 2018
    Arsenal rotating there goalkeepers (not). lol
     
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  15. TitoTata

    TitoTata Member+

    Jun 26, 2014
    Maybe they need to start

    Raya’s kicking is rubbish
     
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  16. Fireburn47

    Fireburn47 Member+

    West Ham United
    England
    Nov 5, 2021
    At this rate Ramsdale will probably only get domestic cups and the Brentford league matches (First match back after November break and two weeks before the March one As Raya is technically on loan.) The only CL match he might get is the last group match if Arsenal have little or nothing to play for.
     
  17. Gaz811

    Gaz811 Member+

    Everton FC
    England
    Oct 15, 2018
    The Lens centre forward is the spitting image of Angel Gomes.
     
  18. roverman

    roverman Member+

    Dec 22, 2001
    Bellingham rashford and saka all with assists
     
  19. roverman

    roverman Member+

    Dec 22, 2001
    Saka off injured again . Arteta is a moron
     
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  20. roverman

    roverman Member+

    Dec 22, 2001
    Bellingham is the second coming of Zidane. The boys a genius
     
  21. TitoTata

    TitoTata Member+

    Jun 26, 2014
    Bellingham just scored a worldie !
     
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  22. Fireburn47

    Fireburn47 Member+

    West Ham United
    England
    Nov 5, 2021
    Arsenal’s doctors have an habit of encouraging risky play. Timber’s ACL injury puzzled experts.
     
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  23. TitoTata

    TitoTata Member+

    Jun 26, 2014
    He’s growing into possibly the best in the world and fast


    He hasn’t got Zidane’s magic .. nobody will ever match Zizu
     
  24. roverman

    roverman Member+

    Dec 22, 2001
    It would be a tragedy if saka's career was ruined by arsenal overplaying him.
     
  25. roverman

    roverman Member+

    Dec 22, 2001
    He's got all Zidane's magic. Ball control, strength, passing
     

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