England Senior National Team General Discussion Thread

Discussion in 'England' started by BarryfromEastenders, Dec 12, 2022.

  1. Inter Row Z

    Inter Row Z Member

    Oldham Athletic
    England
    Mar 26, 2023
    Absolutely. Forget the fact that Rashford consistently plays well and impacts games in an England shirt. If the BBC Ratings and Fireburn's keyboard warriors don't like him, Southgate's got no excuse for picking him!
     
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  2. Fireburn47

    Fireburn47 Member+

    West Ham United
    England
    Nov 5, 2021
    That he does but I could easily see Southgate deciding to start Foden over him because of recent club form and that Foden was better against Scotland as there is not much in it between very talented players.
     
  3. Fireburn47

    Fireburn47 Member+

    West Ham United
    England
    Nov 5, 2021
    #6428 Fireburn47, Sep 24, 2023
    Last edited: Sep 24, 2023
    Dunk makes his return for Brighton despite being ruled out the other day. The loss in Europa league showed his importance to that team.

    Feels like Chilwell has been permanently dropped for Colwill at Chelsea. Will that be what Southgate does (With Trippier starting of course.) and calls up Colwill to be the Trippier cover. Or will he possibly call up yet another player who is not starting to add to Maguire, Phillips and Ramsdale. Shaw won’t be back until March for England.

    It’s perfectly possibly Ramsdale only minutes between now and November will be League Cup matches. Not a great situation for the number two England goalkeeper to be in and not something Southgate I suspect expected until August.
     
  4. Gaz811

    Gaz811 Member+

    Everton FC
    England
    Oct 15, 2018
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  5. Fireburn47

    Fireburn47 Member+

    West Ham United
    England
    Nov 5, 2021
    It was to try and ease the transition but it came across like a politician and sometimes it is better to be honest like Pep was when he disposed of Joe Hart.

    If it wasn’t for Maguire and Phillips his England place wouldn’t really be questioned straight away but those two plus issues with Chillwill and Henderson possibly still being called up will add to a feeling of debate.
     
  6. Gaz811

    Gaz811 Member+

    Everton FC
    England
    Oct 15, 2018
    The problem is a lot of people believed him. People will stop trusting what he says in the future. Hope he was honest with Ramsdale behind closed doors.
     
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  7. Fireburn47

    Fireburn47 Member+

    West Ham United
    England
    Nov 5, 2021
    Who knows. A report today said he will take him time about if to decide to leave but there have been whispers he is not happy at all.
     
  8. Gaz811

    Gaz811 Member+

    Everton FC
    England
    Oct 15, 2018
    You can't blame him really.
     
  9. Fireburn47

    Fireburn47 Member+

    West Ham United
    England
    Nov 5, 2021
    I imagine it was a surprise as I doubt he was told when he extended his contract that he wasn’t going to number 1 for much longer.
     
  10. Gaz811

    Gaz811 Member+

    Everton FC
    England
    Oct 15, 2018
    Not being an Arsenal fan myself it would be funny if Raya threw a couple in.
     
  11. Fireburn47

    Fireburn47 Member+

    West Ham United
    England
    Nov 5, 2021
    I could see Ben Chilwell pushing to leave Chelsea as early as January if he drops out of England contention before then. He is openly desperate to make the Euros and won’t do so being on the Chelsea bench. Southgate will just have Shaw with Trippier as cover from March onwards.
     
  12. roverman

    roverman Member+

    Dec 22, 2001
    The hype over raya is baffling. He's a decent keeper but no better than ramsdale
     
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  13. Inter Row Z

    Inter Row Z Member

    Oldham Athletic
    England
    Mar 26, 2023
    Good grief. He's only missed two games and you're already wildly predicting that his Chelsea career is over. Players are allowed to have a dip in form you know.
     
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  14. Fireburn47

    Fireburn47 Member+

    West Ham United
    England
    Nov 5, 2021
    It can be hard getting back in through at non Europe playing teams where there is typically less rotation.
     
  15. Fireburn47

    Fireburn47 Member+

    West Ham United
    England
    Nov 5, 2021
    Rice replaced at the NLD at half time - suspected injury.

    If he misses England then we surely going to get a Henderson, Phillips Bellingham midfield are we not
     
  16. Jamespt21

    Jamespt21 Member

    Manchester City
    England
    Aug 20, 2023
    Calf bandaged up apparently, rarely a long term injury. On the more serious side he'll miss England in October, but more likely they took him off to avoid a long term injury.
     
  17. Fireburn47

    Fireburn47 Member+

    West Ham United
    England
    Nov 5, 2021
    #6442 Fireburn47, Sep 24, 2023
    Last edited: Sep 24, 2023
    Half time replacements tend to not be long term issues because the majority of very serious injures mean going off immediately.

    But of course the Italy match is three weeks away and he could miss that. Could be the difference between being seeded at the Euros and not being seeded (Surely qualification is not in danger.)
     
  18. Fireburn47

    Fireburn47 Member+

    West Ham United
    England
    Nov 5, 2021



    They haven’t done a very good job of managing it. His record has been 81 mins of the community shield. Then two full 90’s. Then subbed off at 91+1. Then two full 90’s for England, Then another full 90 and then 76 mins in the CL.

    Chronic injures are the worse to get over as well.
     
  19. AJ123

    AJ123 Member+

    Man Utd
    England
    Feb 17, 2018
    13 English players in the Newcastle vs Sheffield United fixture? Where's Fireburn at?

    Interesting that we never talk about Dan Burn as a left back option for England. Despite him playing for a top four team last season and he's appearing in the Champions League this season it's like he doesn't exist.

    Elliot Anderson gets another start as well.
     
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  20. roverman

    roverman Member+

    Dec 22, 2001
    If rice is missing. A midfield of Bellingham Phillips maddison
     
  21. Fireburn47

    Fireburn47 Member+

    West Ham United
    England
    Nov 5, 2021
    It just feels unlikely to me Dan Burn would ever get called up. He feels like a player who has a good PL career but never gets an international sniff.
    13 is very good plus with high English numbers on the benches as well.

    If TAA can get back before the next call up then could TAA, Bellingham Henderson/Phillips work or would that fail.
     
  22. Fireburn47

    Fireburn47 Member+

    West Ham United
    England
    Nov 5, 2021
    #6447 Fireburn47, Sep 24, 2023
    Last edited: Sep 24, 2023
    I don’t think Southgate would do that. I honestly think he will go Phillips, Henderson, Bellingham against Italy. No idea against Australia.

    Would Southgate use a rice absence to call up a midfielder who wasn’t called up last time even if they not a direct replacement . Angel Gomes? James Ward - Prowse? Jacob Ramsey? Curtis Jones?
     
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  23. Gaz811

    Gaz811 Member+

    Everton FC
    England
    Oct 15, 2018
    Maddisons off injuryed
     
  24. MrSnrub

    MrSnrub Member+

    Oct 7, 2018
    Burn plays left back very much like an extra centre back. Creates more freedom to Trippier, but he doesn't bring much quality on the ball and absolutely zero in attack.

    Newcastle really overachieved last season but it seems they're bumping up against the lack of quality some of these players have on the ball this season.
     
  25. Fireburn47

    Fireburn47 Member+

    West Ham United
    England
    Nov 5, 2021
    Konsa being said to have had a good match for Villa. I wonder if he will ever get a call up.
     

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