Elon Musk needs his own thread because he's in every damn thing

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  1. JamesA

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    The clearance on the truck is great. More than enough for most of roading. It's not the issue.

    The problem is tied into poor approach and departure angles for off roading.
     
  2. zaqualung

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    #1202 zaqualung, Dec 1, 2023
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    The problem with the internet generation is that they tend to equate having the combo of an uncontrollabe big mouth, financial success and ubiquity with genius (and this across multi strata).
    Musk simply sickens my guts.....
     
  3. Belgian guy

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  4. Paul Berry

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  6. Smurfquake

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    I don't get that at all. The passenger compartment is not impacted at all - the crumple zone at the front of the car takes the impact. (And because it's an EV, there's no massive engine block getting pushed back into the passenger compartment.) The Model S had some of the best safety ratings and crash test results ever - the Cybertruck may look like an incel's wet dream but Tesla knows how to make cars that keep the people inside them relatively safe.
     
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  7. Yoshou

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  8. Yoshou

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    Yeah.. Lots of people who have never or rarely seen a crash test are making a lot of noise about the front end.. the front is supposed to act like that. As in, it is literally designed to crumple like that. I don’t see any intrusion into passenger cabin and air bags look like they deployed properly.. obviously they don’t show anything inside the cabin so we don’t know how the crash dummies behaved, but from an exterior view, that looks like how a car should behave..
     
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    You're much more likely to die from embarrassment then
     
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  10. Paul Berry

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    The front end is also meant to crumple so it protects them passengers in the car you hit. That Tesla looks like it's ready to decapitate the occupants of the sports car in front of it.
     
  11. Cascarino's Pizzeria

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    Eels needs to go all in like this. He can dress up like SuperDave

     
  12. SamScouse

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    Terminal Mockery.
     
  13. Yoshou

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    Okay… I’ll have to revise my comment about this being a good crash test… I didn’t notice in the video, but it appears that the back wheels snapped off in the front end test.. that shouldn’t happen.

     
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  14. Smurfquake

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    If the body is one rigid piece and it's transmitting some of the energy from the crash up front to break things in the back, that's bad, like the vehicle shouldn't be approved for use in the US bad. But I still don't see how the "fragile meatsacks" get killed from that video. Nobody has a great day if they drive into a wall at 35 MPH but those crash test dummies should walk away from that accident. (I mean, not literally, crash test dummies are inanimate objects and can't walk on their own.)
     
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  15. Sounders78

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    You knew this was coming:

     
  16. Yoshou

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    Maybe? It could also mean the crumple zone isn’t large enough. If that’s the case, that’s a lot of energy going into the meatsacks and while they are likely walking away, they are really sore.
     
  17. The Jitty Slitter

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    It's a street car - more like all those SUVs pretending to be jeeps
     
  18. Belgian guy

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    The rear axle doesn't survive a under 60 km/h collision. Also it failed the rolling test at all speeds exceeding 16 mph.
     
  19. Paul Berry

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    Right but the purpose of a crash test is to evaluate the safety of the passenger compartment and to a lesser extent the passenger compartment of the car it hits. The rest of the car is 100% expendable. And it's not like the gas tank is going to explode.
     
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  20. Yoshou

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    #1220 Yoshou, Dec 2, 2023
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    What failed on the roll test? What they showed in the video was that the car didn’t roll, which is very hard for an EV to do given how low the center of gravity.

    The rear wheels breaking free doesn’t necessarily mean it failed the test. As Paul mentioned, what’s important is the passengers. The Insurance companies won’t like it, of course, but the US’s highway safety admin likely wouldn’t care.
     
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  21. celito

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    I am not a truck guy and frankly don't care for the looks of the Cyber Truck. Don't know if it's gonna succeed or fail. Not even sure if they expect big volume sales or for it just to be a niche product. But the fact that it has drive by wire (and I think the first car to have it) is actually interesting and a cool feature if it works as designed and is reliable. I wouldn't have it in a sports car, but for a big car like a truck, it's definitely interesting.
     
  22. Smurfquake

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    I was looking for roll tests for other popular trucks - the top selling vehicles in the US are the Ford F-series, the Chevy Silverado and the Dodge Ram, all pickups (link - the Toyota Rav-4 is 4th and the Tesla Model Y is 5th). Those things look pretty tippy to me - I saw a pickup truck making a left turn yesterday and it had a noticeable tilt. I don't think they would do well on the roll test at all, which is a thing that the Model S excelled at. Maybe the Cybertruck undid all of those safety advantages that were built in to the Model S (and presumably the Models 3 and Y) but with that big battery pack lower than the center of gravity of those pickup trucks, it should do better than the standard American pickup truck.

    Anyways, I was looking for video of roll tests like that for other trucks, and couldn't find them. It sounds like that test isn't mandatory. Tesla does it because they do pretty well at it in comparison to other vehicles. I bet a Ford F-150 rolls over at a lot less than 16 MPH.
     
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  24. Sounders78

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    I just realized what it reminds me of - the armored vehicle Sigourney Weaver drove in Aliens when the aliens were first attacking the marines.
     
  25. Auriaprottu

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    Some kind of Mission Control wannabe jacket and a Casio?
     
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