Electric Vehicles discussion (was NJ bans Tesla dealerships)

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  1. roby

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    SIRLOIN SALOON FC, PITTSFIELD MA
    Feb 27, 2005
    So Cal
    I have a 2011 Ody ramp van with all the bells and whistles "for that year". It.s actually fun to drive. Only have 105K on it so hopefully it will outlast me. If not a Sienna hybrid will suffice if I can come up with about $75K! :(
     
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  2. song219

    song219 BigSoccer Supporter

    Apr 5, 2004
    La Norte
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    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    Vanuatu
    As I had a roommate once say, "It's no ones damn business what lane I'm getting into"
     
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  3. roby

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    SIRLOIN SALOON FC, PITTSFIELD MA
    Feb 27, 2005
    So Cal
    I do...especially when driving in a snow storm or a dirt road. Also auto braking would be fun when on I5 freeway at 4PM weekdays. :)
     
  4. Yoshou

    Yoshou Fan of the CCL Champ

    May 12, 2009
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    I can't speak for other cars since this is the first car I have that has had all these automated things, but the variable speed control on my ID4 is really good. It doesn't come to a complete stop, but it maintains a safe distance from the car in front of you with a smooth transition between speeds.
     
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  5. stanger

    stanger BigSoccer Supporter

    Nov 29, 2008
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    The issue was more from getting into left turn lanes. If you even tried to get into one a tad early it would hit the brake, try to steer back left, make a hideous noise and flash a warning on the dash screens.

    I always use my signal and always get out of the left lane on the highway even though I am normally the fastest vehicle [emoji41]
     
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  6. stanger

    stanger BigSoccer Supporter

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    It’s a fantastic vehicle for my wife to drive!

    It’s a 2021 with all the options. Great van to take on vacation without a doubt.
     
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  7. roby

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    SIRLOIN SALOON FC, PITTSFIELD MA
    Feb 27, 2005
    So Cal
    What is a safe distance during "rush hour"! More than 1 car length and you ain't getting home soon! :whistling:
     
  8. Yoshou

    Yoshou Fan of the CCL Champ

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    Very interesting. With my id4, as soon as I activate the turn signal, it turns off the lane assist for that direction.
     
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  9. Yoshou

    Yoshou Fan of the CCL Champ

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    With the ID4, it keeps a 1-4 second gap depending on your setting.
     
  10. roby

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    SIRLOIN SALOON FC, PITTSFIELD MA
    Feb 27, 2005
    So Cal
    #660 roby, Dec 2, 2022
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    Best vehicle for EV Freeway transport! :devilish:

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  11. The Jitty Slitter

    The Jitty Slitter Moderator
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    Jul 23, 2004
    Fascist Hellscape
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    But are there any special laws for it? Or is it just the case that you are still effectively driving so it isn't regulated?
     
  12. The Jitty Slitter

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    Belgium
    I really like the speed control on the VWs - i use it pretty much all the time - especially now there are speed cameras all over the place

    you can also really tell other drivers are mostly using it
     
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  13. The Jitty Slitter

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    I really don't like lane control - it often doesn't work well when you are trying to select a lane
     
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  14. xtomx

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    #664 xtomx, Dec 2, 2022
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    I imagine that we all have had roommates who were assholes.

    Come to think of it, I have only had one roommate in my life...and he was an asshole.

    Plus, he played the hammered dulcimer, and (worse) played it poorly.
     
  15. rslfanboy

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    Section 26
    Did he get into @song219's lane?
     
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  16. xtomx

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    Sep 6, 2001
    Northern Wisconsin, but not far from civilization
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    The "smart cruise control" on my EV6 is fantastic.
    It keeps a safe distance (1-3 car lengths) and slows down with traffic and speeds up with traffic.
    The regenerative/auto braking is awesome.
    When I have set to 3 or "full" I barely have to touch the brakes at all.
    The lane warning is okay, and it shuts off when I use my turn signal.
    The "lane" assist is okay, but not really necessary. Sometimes, you have to fight back against the steering.
    It is FRICKING scary when there is ice, though, since it starts braking immediately. I quickly realized to turn it off (and turn on "Snow" mode) in inclement weather.
     
  17. Smurfquake

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    There are localities that allow for self-driving cars, e.g. San Francisco is allowing Cruise to operate a number of driverless taxis under certain conditions, but Tesla's FSD is not advanced enough that those laws apply - it still requires a human driver who is paying attention and is prepared to take control at any time, and if anything goes wrong, the person is treated as if they were driving - they have no legal defense to go "well, the car was driving itself when it hit the parked car, so it's Tesla's fault, not mine".
     
  18. soccernutter

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    Near the mountains.
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    That sound a lot like both the Savings and Loan crisis in the 1980s as well as the Junk Bond status of Milkin.
     
  19. The Jitty Slitter

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    Germany
    Jul 23, 2004
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    FC Sankt Pauli
    Nat'l Team:
    Belgium
    I really hate it on narrow country B roads with speeds 70-100kph

    I tend to drive quite high on the road, as I was taught to drive more towards the centre when you can see everything, and stay a bit away from the verge - of course the computer can drive a bit more accurately on a fast bend, relying on active suspension and traction control to just follow the lane precisely whereas i learned in old 'race cars of the 70s' to use the road, apex the bend etc etc - so the computer is always nipping at the wheel

    I think that is the limit of human driving, because while I can be aware i have traction control, and it can assist me, i can't actively use it as part of steering the car
     
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  20. soccernutter

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    Near the mountains.
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    You get a

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  21. soccernutter

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    Aug 22, 2001
    Near the mountains.
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    Just invest in cypto and you'll be a bigillionare in no time.
     
  22. soccernutter

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    Aug 22, 2001
    Near the mountains.
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    The other day I was driving along in the fast lane and came up on a Tesla. Went around a bend and I saw it was the car in front. I gently pushed up on the Tesla to see if it would automatically move forward adjusting for an equal distance. I don't think it did, but the thought I might have been able to do so amused me.
     
  23. roby

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    SIRLOIN SALOON FC, PITTSFIELD MA
    Feb 27, 2005
    So Cal
    I invested in a crypt....is that the same thing? :unsure:
     
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  24. Yoshou

    Yoshou Fan of the CCL Champ

    May 12, 2009
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    Well.... I'm not sure I would agree that they have no legal defense. I'm not sure it has made it to trial yet if Tesla's autopilot/FSD makes Tesla can be held liable. Or, maybe I should say, you're right that if an accident happens while a Tesla is in autopilot/FSD, the lawsuit would be against the driver of the car and their insurance. However, there have also been lawsuits against Tesla for those accidents and, I believe, most of them have been settled out of court.
     
  25. song219

    song219 BigSoccer Supporter

    Apr 5, 2004
    La Norte
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    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    Vanuatu
    Worsee. He became a commercial truck driver.
     
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