Dow jones plunges 512 points in one day; nasdaq down 136; s&p down 60

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  1. The Jitty Slitter

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    Bayern München
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    Jul 23, 2004
    Fascist Hellscape
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    You will be more like China

    A nation with vast wealth concentrated in a few number of hands
     
  2. Just like the financial crisis a couple of years ago caused by dodgy mortgages.
    You could buy houses on the cheap. Nobody was buying/could buy.
    I was tempted to buy a house I saw pareded on tv for a very low price right next to a golf venue. Until I saw on building programms on tv how American houses are built, basically cardboard. It explained why I saw nothing standing in a neighbourhood in California after huge forest fires. Only things still standing were chimneys.
     
  3. And the introduction of slavery 2.0
     
  4. MattR

    MattR Member+

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    We've been headed for third world status for some time. Wealth in the hands of a tiny minority. Government increasingly designed to support the needs of that tiny minority. Reduction in ability for non wealthy to achieve redress from government. Reduction in power and size of middle class. Loss of manufacturing and pensions. Loss of unions. Lack of functioning government. Lack of leadership. High incarceration rate. Lack of infrastructure.

    I could go on, but why?
     
  5. :D
    You know why:p
     
  6. celito

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    AMZN anD FB crusheD earnings
     
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  7. Funkfoot

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    As did UPS.
     
  8. The Jitty Slitter

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    I see that as more 2nd world
     
  9. SamScouse

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    a journey begins with one step ....
     
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  10. chad

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    It's as if the Trump Presidency is performance art to strip away the false ideological claims of the Republican Party.

    1. Small federal government? jk
    2. State's rights? jk
    3. No deficit? jk
    4. "Family values"? jk
    5. Strong on the economy? jk

    There is nothing left apart from White Supremacy. That's it. It's everyone against the racists and those who are too stupid or too greedy to realize or to care that they are working for the racists.
     
  11. Q*bert Jones III

    Q*bert Jones III The People's Poet

    Feb 12, 2005
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    This is what I've been saying since 2015. All the ideological underpinnings of the Republican Party have now been abandoned except for white ethno-nationalism.
     
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  12. chaski

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    Huh?
    #1 priority of GOP for decades has been lower taxes for millionaires.
     
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  13. Kazuma

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    For the last year and a half, there were plans to make my department permanent work from home. A month or so before the pandemic got serious, we started the permanent work from home. I was somewhat against it at first, as I liked getting out of my home. Now? You'd have to pay me handsomely and then some to get me to come in once a week.

    It's been mentioned on here that office buildings have been in a bubble for a while.
     
  14. spejic

    spejic Cautionary example

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    Yeah. And those people are now in the Lincoln Project wondering why 98% of the party abandoned them.
     
  15. American Brummie

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    https://www.vanityfair.com/news/202...s-secret-testing-plan-went-poof-into-thin-air


    "Worried about the stock market and his reelection prospects..."

    I imagine next week when the eviction stories start to explode and the unemployment numbers jump, I'll have one or two posts in this thread to register my dismay and then I'll have to stop to avoid my anger getting the better of me.
     
  16. Worldwide real estate investor Unibail-Rodamco-Westfield (URW) is in trouble. They need a capital infusion, while the stock price has gone down severly.
    They are in the same boat as other branche members. These funds own shopping malls all over the world and due to the corona virus renters of shops can't pay the rents.
     
  17. jmartin1966

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    Jun 13, 2004
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    I put the start at 1981
     
  18. ceezmad

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    So shortest bear market ever it seems

    https://www.cnbc.com/2020/08/20/wha...p-again-after-reaching-highest-level-eve.html
     
  19. MattR

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    #1819 MattR, Aug 20, 2020
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    I'm right there with you. I can't seem to understand that a global pandemic that is effecting entire sectors of the economy (like travel, hospitality, conferences, meat packing, real estate, sporting events and teams, theater & entertainment) is somehow NBD and Wall Street thinks things are going to be just a-ok.

    [​IMG]
    Some of these colors are doomed for the foreseeable future. (from https://www2.deloitte.com/us/en/insights/economy/spotlight/economics-insights-analysis-07-2019.html)

    I guess the problem I have is that I've been told the big issue with Wall Street is they focus on short-term immediate results. But now, that the short-term immediate results are going to suck, they've changed their mind and are now focusing on long-term "After Corona" (A.C.) numbers to justify stocks continuing to rise.

    Or is it that the online companies are doing so well it doesn't matter that American Airlines lost $2.1 billion last quarter.
     
  20. xtomx

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    "Wall Street thinks things are going to be just a-ok" ...because Wall Street simply does not care.

    It is all about shifting money around and scraping some off of the top, or sides, or bottom. Wall Street just does not give a crap.
     
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  21. taosjohn

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    But this is just silly-- "giving a crap" is no part of Wall Streets mission. Not what it is for. Wall Street is for figuring out where money is to be made, found, or stored. That's all it is about, period. You can argue that is has lost perspective on the balance between short term gains and long term productivity and stability, and I often do.

    But it isn't for saving puppies puppies and babies from hot cars; at best it is for funding programs that save babies and puppies from hot cars,,,
     
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  22. song219

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    #1822 song219, Aug 20, 2020
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    All Wall Street really is are a bunch of rich people looking for a bank. They make a lot of money and what the have made they don't want to see lose value and they want to be semi-liquid.
    Thus they buy stocks. This is opposed to them buying corporate bonds, government bonds, gold, silver or whatever store of value they can get into or out of quickly.
    Take little stock in people who tell you that it is a predictor of future corporate earnings.
     
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  23. Funkfoot

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  24. bostonsoccermdl

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    I was going to post something like this yesterday but forgot to. One can argue they have actually benefited from Covid, and peoples lifestyle changes. A quote from the article yesterday said something along the lines of you would need 125 American airlines to account for the market cap of Microsoft. (I don't know if I got the companies right, but the idea stays the same.)

    Having said that, always planning ahead, the market has priced in one or a few of the Covid vaccines to be successful this winter.

    Another factor is the need for fund managers to rotate money into attractive sectors during the pandemic. This is technology stocks like the ones you mentioned. And what does that do? it simply pumps up the heavily weighted S&P issues.
     
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  25. Jazzy Altidore

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    Most of the growth in recent years is driven by a few tech companies who are doing just fine if not strengthened by the Pandemic.
     

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