Dow jones plunges 512 points in one day; nasdaq down 136; s&p down 60

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  1. Q*bert Jones III

    Q*bert Jones III The People's Poet

    Feb 12, 2005
    Woodstock, NY
    Club:
    DC United
    From what I've heard, no economist thinks that all the lost jobs will come back. I heard somewhere that they think that as many as in 1 in 4 are gone permanently. That would be ~5 million jobs.
     
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  2. bostonsoccermdl

    bostonsoccermdl Moderator
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    Apr 3, 2002
    Denver, CO
    I totally get people wanting to separate work from home life ie "leave work at the office" but I do think this will have a lasting effect on the overall trend. If for no other reason, people are saving gas (as Kazuma mentioned) and time/stress from commuting during rush hour.
    Most importantly, companies will save on costs which will be the driving factor. They probably dabbled with the idea pre-Covid, but being forced to try it out they realize its a promising idea.

    I wouldn't be surprised to see companies even offer small financial incentives to those who choose to work from home?
     
  3. xtomx

    xtomx Member+

    Chicago Fire
    Sep 6, 2001
    Northern Wisconsin, but not far from civilization
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    It is ALL Franz Beckenbauer's fault.
     
  4. That too. The lost 1974 Final that is.:(
     
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  5. jmartin1966

    jmartin1966 Member+

    Jun 13, 2004
    Chicago
    Bankruptcy judge will let Hertz offer stock.

    How have the people that will buy stock not already been separated from their money?
     
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  6. ceezmad

    ceezmad Member+

    Mar 4, 2010
    Chicago
    Club:
    Chicago Red Stars
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    So the question, buy on the way up? or too risky to believe the suckers will bid it up?
     
  7. roby

    roby Member+

    SIRLOIN SALOON FC, PITTSFIELD MA
    Feb 27, 2005
    So Cal
    Buy one of these and park it in your neighbor's driveway down the street. :coffee:

    upload_2020-6-12_21-17-40.jpeg
     
  8. jmartin1966

    jmartin1966 Member+

    Jun 13, 2004
    Chicago
    nfw
     
  9. jmartin1966

    jmartin1966 Member+

    Jun 13, 2004
    Chicago
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  10. chaski

    chaski Moderator
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    Mar 20, 2000
    redacted
    Club:
    Lisburn Distillery FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Turks and Caicos Islands
    They just want to be in the driver’s seat.
     
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  11. spejic

    spejic Cautionary example

    Mar 1, 1999
    San Rafael, CA
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    But they are the ones that are going to be taken for a ride.

    But then, that's what a roller coaster is, right?

    Oh I ruined the metaphor. Sorry.
     
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  12. chaski

    chaski Moderator
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    Mar 20, 2000
    redacted
    Club:
    Lisburn Distillery FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Turks and Caicos Islands
    Try harder.
     
  13. chaski

    chaski Moderator
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    Mar 20, 2000
    redacted
    Club:
    Lisburn Distillery FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Turks and Caicos Islands
    Does OJ still own Hertz stock?

     
  14. Cascarino's Pizzeria

    Apr 29, 2001
    New Jersey, USA
    Sold it and bought JA Henckels
     
  15. ChrisSSBB

    ChrisSSBB Member+

    Jun 22, 2005
    DE
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Market will open today down about 2%.

    Those Robinhood kids would be better off just buying one of the many cars Hertz is liquidating than trying to cash in on idiot caused volatility in the share price.
     
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  16. jmartin1966

    jmartin1966 Member+

    Jun 13, 2004
    Chicago
    or if they want to invest in Hertz, buy the debt
    the prospectus sounds pretty brutal, maybe that will slow things down
     
  17. celito

    celito Moderator
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    Palmeiras
    Brazil
    Feb 28, 2005
    USA
    Club:
    Palmeiras Sao Paulo
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    FED WILL BEGIN BUYING BROAD PORTFOLIO OF U.S. CORPORATE BONDS

    [​IMG]
     
  18. Boandlkramer

    Boandlkramer Member+

    Apr 9, 2009
    Samma Weltmeister!
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Yay!!!!

    How much has been pumped to prop up Wallstreet. The whole thing is a ruse
     
  19. superdave

    superdave Member+

    Jul 14, 1999
    VB, VA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Could y'all either post a link to an article, or actually explain what happened?

    Thanks preesh bye
     
  20. ChrisSSBB

    ChrisSSBB Member+

    Jun 22, 2005
    DE
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    https://apple.news/AYJH4vUu0TyaUpBIZ7JdzKQ

    Fed will start buying corporate debt. They will be buying debts of individual corporations rather than the relatively passive ETF approach to bonds they took earlier. It is a more active approach which is debatable about whether the Fed should be this involved in buying bonds directly from specific companies.. Of course, they were involved specifically with companies “too big to fail” during 2008 crash. Somewhere, sometime, somehow, the Fed rug is going to get pulled out from the overall market in a way that there will be a big reckoning.
     
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  21. Chicago76

    Chicago76 Member+

    Jun 9, 2002
    I’m waiting to see what this market does to Enterprise Holdings...privately held by the Taylor family...who is the family behind STL’s MLS expansion club.
     
  22. jmartin1966

    jmartin1966 Member+

    Jun 13, 2004
    Chicago
    #1647 jmartin1966, Jun 15, 2020
    Last edited: Jun 15, 2020
    Rental companies were in trouble before Covid-19. The resulting decrease in travel must hit them hard. Some people might be more likely rent a car in order to avoid public transit or ride share, but not enough to make up for the travel loss.

    Edit: a link to Robinhood's 100 most "popular" companies: https://robinhood.com/collections/100-most-popular

    Yikes! Sure some good stocks but lol at the top of the list.

    With distressed companies, trade the debt, not the equity.
     
  23. spejic

    spejic Cautionary example

    Mar 1, 1999
    San Rafael, CA
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    It only has to last until November.
     
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  24. Boandlkramer

    Boandlkramer Member+

    Apr 9, 2009
    Samma Weltmeister!
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    When did the Stock market get decoupled from the job market?
     
  25. superdave

    superdave Member+

    Jul 14, 1999
    VB, VA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I haz kwestions

    Like, how do we know that the Trump administration won't base purchases on whether or not a corporation pleases Trump orally. Like, is the Fed going to buy $10T of MyPillow corporate debt? Are they going to do whatever the opposite of that is with ComCast and Amazon? Is there an objective standard as to what gets bought and what doesn't? Who decides?

    I'm just a simple caveman lawyer, but this seems like it will end up as counts 976 through 1433 of The People vs. Donald J. Trump.

    You know what else? I'm so old I remember when Republicans believed in the free market! Kids, ask your parents.

    That's the end of the rant. Now I'm going to my happy place, which is called Yeahsurewhynotland.
     
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