Would not surprise me if employers in service industries told their workers to come back and get paid in cash, while still claiming unemployment, to make ends meet.
You want to see something cool Chesapeake energy was trading at 16 bucks last Friday, by Tuesday it was up to 73 dollars. By the end of the day today it is back to around 17 dollars. That is the type of rides you see in penny stocks. https://www.marketwatch.com/investing/stock/chk https://www.barrons.com/articles/ch...-plunges-after-a-bizarre-24-hours-51591726856
I guess Tuesday and Wednesday was a crazy ride for energy companies. Fangdd Network Group Ltd. (DUO) From 10 bucks to 119 then back to 15. It may seem like algorithms are attacking short sellers that want to close out their options. https://finance.yahoo.com/quote/DUO/
Same kind of thing with Hertz drove stock price up 800%. All of these retail investor day traders gambling options. Meanwhile, NYSE has declared intent to delist Hertz. Craziness.
Having said that, the party may be over for now. First pullback in the market today in a few days. VIX spiking.
Yeah, at end of last week my portfolio was slightly higher than before covid. I found that really weird. Looks like some reality hitting again.
Have you all read this article by a UC Berkeley Professor Frank Partnoy in The Atlantic? Things is looking not so great.
NKLA may be the new TESLA, for a while the market cap was larger than Ford, for a company that has not sold a single vehicle. Will the NKLA owner be able to copy the TESLA blue print of hyping their stock to huge levels while losing money selling cars?
A lot of commercial real state may not be profitable again, we can see a lot of defaults on that debt.
On the bright side, maybe all those empty offices and warehouses can be refitted to provide shelter to all the new homeless people that we will have.
It isn't just that though. The article talks about how all these CLOs are holding a significant amount of risk that is only rated AAA because the chance of everything going to shit is low. Well, guess what? Everything is going to shit. The low probability is much closer to reality. Those CLOs being touted as safe really aren't, just like all those AAA home loans were a "sure thing." There's more money in CLOs than there were CDOs in 2008. Banks are leveraged, much like they were before, although thankfully they at least have more cash in hand. However, I have no faith that US government can competently intercede. Even if Trump gets voted out, it's such a cluster******** that I don't know if anything cohesive can happen. I just hope that government focusses more on bailing out its citizens (not just the wealthy ones) than its corporations.
Nailed it before the ticker change when it was VTIQ. They have some secured contracts. But could all go out in space.
https://www.politico.com/news/2020/06/11/stocks-tumble-investors-313584 Look, I know I've been beating this dead horse but there's no gosh-f*cking-darn reason traders should have been so optimistic. What world were they living in where the complete shutdown of economic output due to a virus that can't be treated or cured had an "optimistic" short-term outcome? How did these people get so rich? They can't all be third-generation inheritors with absolutely no intelligence, can they??!?!
From the market itself of course... Seriously though, this is still a pretty rich country. Lots of money out there. And with savings rate at miserable 0-1%, it force money into the market. Then you have the Fed backing all of this up.
In 100% seriousness, where I work I've been talking to someone who does development about planning for what we can do when a whole bunch of prime real estate that is office or commercial goes belly up. In a weird way, the climate future is much brighter than it was pre-COVID; WFH is great for reducing emissions. Then throw in the ability to convert a lot of these types of real estate into residential, and even for the days when people have to drive in to work, the commutes will be far less. There will be far less time wasted sitting at stoplights. What??? A bunch of geniuses with Ivy League degrees vastly underestimated the tail end risk??? That's unpossible!!
I worked with a single guy who had a gambling problem and lived like an hour and a half away from work. So some nights he'd go out partying in NYC then crash in his car. After I left the company one of my old coworkers said he got canned when they caught him sleeping under his desk. He was also showering in the company gym locker room