Dow jones plunges 512 points in one day; nasdaq down 136; s&p down 60

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  1. Caesar

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    All hail neo-Keynesian economics.
     
  2. Hugo Sanchez

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  3. American Brummie

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    Holy necro thread batman! What idiot started this in first pla...
     
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  4. American Brummie

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    Ahhh, back when nicephoras, Timon, and I were jolly good sports ;)
     
  5. The Jitty Slitter

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    Back when Caesar posted on bigsoccer :unsure:

    Amazing how you forget so many posters down the years
     
  6. American Brummie

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    Caesar! He was the best of us.
     
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  7. Cascarino's Pizzeria

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    All hail! :cautious:
     
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  8. JohnR

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    Presidents don't make stock prices go up or down.*

    * Except this one sometimes makes them go down. Which, to give him credit, is difficult to do. It takes a special President for the stock market to notice.
     
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  9. ceezmad

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    Time to buy more stock for me 401K
     
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  10. JohnR

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    Wait until 45 is imprisoned.
     
  11. ceezmad

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    It will be too late by then.

    The question is how low can they go, jump in when they hit bottom.
     
  12. HerthaBerwyn

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    Tell me how this is Obama and Hillary's faults. I need my talking points.
     
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  13. bostonsoccermdl

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    THe problem is from a technical/charting perspective, if you look at the S&P 500 (the "SPY" ETF is an easy proxy), there is no "resting spot" or support level where people normally catch their breath, some cover their shorts, and have a usual bounce. It is way down another 35 points roughly, with a small inflection point around $240 which is suspect to hold for long.
    If you want to catch the proverbial falling knife, I am looking to do it around $210. (not giving financial advice of course, just my .02)

    (charts arent the only factor, but often good tells. News obviously in this environment can toss charts out the window, but unless major news comes out during this time that is positive, then yeah...)
     
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  14. ceezmad

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    Talk about a thread that did not age well, well it did not even age well very quickly.

    But here are some stories that will not be liked.


    https://www.cnbc.com/2019/12/27/stocks-head-into-2020-betting-on-trump-election-victory.html

    https://www.cbsnews.com/news/nasdaq-closes-at-a-record-high-buoyed-by-year-end-holiday-shopping/




    Edit:


    Search fail on my part, I was looking for the one where the stock tanked after the November 2016 election, but I bumped the wrong thread.


    I should yellow card my self.
     
  15. superdave

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    Yes, if you enact a massive tax cut for the investing class, rather than for the consumer class, investment values will go way up.

    No shit Sherlock.
     
  16. Cascarino's Pizzeria

    Apr 29, 2001
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    Thanks Obama!
     
  17. bostonsoccermdl

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    Well I was close. anyone else grab SPY on the way up past $240? :cool:
     
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  18. teamdragon

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    I need to rep that guy here who mentioned Tesla $100 lower last month. Where did he go?
     
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  19. argentine soccer fan

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    I was talking to my stockbroker a couple of weeks ago, and he said pretty much the same thing as your first link. He predicts a Trump victory and strong economic growth. When I told him that I thought a recession was inevitable, he agreed, but he expects it to be mild, and while there may be “ a small correction”, he expects the upward trend to continue.

    I am torn. The guy has fully become a Trump cult member. He has earned my trust, because he’s been right with his predictions in the past, for the most part, and he’s taken very good care of my investments over the years. But this is the first time that his assessment of the future is significantly different from my own thinking. I expect Trump to lose, and I also expect a more serious recession and a more significant market correction.
     
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  20. Cascarino's Pizzeria

    Apr 29, 2001
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    Michael Moore's saying the same thing. We know he has his hard core 33-40%. 55% wont vote for him. But since it's focused on districts in a select number of states, it could be similar to 2016. The fear IMO is ICs who love the economy going with Cheeto again. Dubya pulled it off with the Fear & Loathing campaign of 2004.
     
  21. argentine soccer fan

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    I don't know what Michael Moore's track record is with predictions regarding Trump, but mine is not very good. I did not expect him to get the Republican nomination, and I did not expect him to beat Hillary Clinton. But seriously, he can't possibly win again!
     
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  22. ElNaranja

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    With Russia's help again he could.
     
  23. Cascarino's Pizzeria

    Apr 29, 2001
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    IIRC AT&T saved a few billion with tax cuts

    Driving the news: AT&T is poised to send thousands into the new year hunting for new jobs after assigning them to train their own foreign replacements, according to conversations with current and former workers and documents obtained by Axios.

    • Many have worked for the company for over a decade. They aren't being offered severance or early retirement, and may not easily find a comparable job elsewhere with similar pay.

    https://www.axios.com/trump-att-out...ers-1f26cd20-664a-4b5f-a2e3-361c8d2af502.html
     
  24. superdave

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    And that's why so many millennials think communism is a good idea.

    Modern capitalism is so awful, people are commie-curious.
     
  25. bigredfutbol

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    Moore predicted a Romney victory in 2012. He also claimed that Trump won in 2016 because of economic anxiety; now that the data shows that's utter horseshit he's flipped his script and now claimed it was because Clinton didn't appeal to women and minorities (seriously).

    His brand is blaming the center-left for the crimes of the right. He NEEDS the Democrats to lose to validate his narratives.




    That said--I think Trump's chances are a lot better than people suspect. Trump and the GOP have tons of money; meanwhile the DNC is flat-broke, two of the four leading candidates for the Democratic nomination are all but bragging that they won't help fundraise down-ticket, and the Trump campaign already has around 85 million in the bank.
     
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