Disgraceful HSV

Discussion in 'Germany' started by The_Special_One, May 17, 2005.

  1. The_Special_One

    The_Special_One New Member

    May 17, 2005
    london
    Is it not possible for you twats to have a civil discussion without resorting to name calling and insulting?
     
  2. HeyaBVB

    HeyaBVB New Member

    May 4, 2005
    Kiel, Germany
    You know ShaRule ... Soccer is Business these days ... I hate it, you may hate it , a lot of fans may hate it. Neither Allah, nor God, nor anyone you or I place our fate in can't do anything against it. Huth is damn good but in the Starensemble of Chelsea he is only second rate. He may playes but others have better chances

    Do we complain, because he is a german not playing? NO we ********ing don't you know why? Cause we see it clearly .... we see past nationalities ... you don't , you are an iranian , iirc. So in your eyes only Iranian players are worth to play (thats my oppinion of your behaviour)

    If it isn't like you want it , your pissed off, maybe seeing a national conspiracy against your beloved Iranian player.

    Fact is .. Mahdavikia sucked most of the season ... now we are in the business section again, a player that costs money but isn't worth it (and Mahdavikia wasn't over 75% of the season) is a liability, the weakest link in a chain if you want so. And then business demands he will be replaced (if it really goes this way) What I doubt .. I really think Doll wanted to give Mahdavikia a chance and Mahdavikia Screwed , whining how unfair doll is, instead of GETTING HIS ********ING ASS UP AND DO SOMETHING!!

    A little example for you:
    I really like Evanilson, from BVB. He was damn talented , but he NEVER showed it, so BVB not extended his contract ... they even cut it short.
    Shall I know call BVB disgraceful, because a Player I like got sacked?
    No .. I look beyond the facts, and I see BVB was clearly right to do so.
     
  3. "TITO"

    "TITO" New Member

    May 7, 2005
    HAMBURG
    @ Daniel:

    I think Sharule is talking about Thomas Doll and Didi Beiersdorfer´s comments after the Freiburg game when Mehdi played only the last 28 min.!!!
    Taka was worst them Mehdi and some other to but they only attacked Mehdi.
    I watched the 2,3 days later in PREMIERE! So I know what I´m talking bout.:

    BILD - 04.04.05

    Doll stinksauer auf Mahdavikia. „Das war ja viel zu wenig“

    Es brach gestern urplötzlich aus ihm raus. Thomas Doll (38) sprach gerade über das miese 1:1 in Freiburg, als ihm plötzlich Edel-Joker Mehdi Mahdavikia (27) in den Sinn kam.

    Und ab da war der HSV-Coach nicht mehr zu halten. Er polterte: „Mehdi hat nach seiner Einwechslung keine Bälle gesichert. Das war ja viel zu wenig. Er sollte mal sein Spiel überdenken“.

    Doll redete sich in Rage: „Ich kann von einem, der so lange in der Liga spielt, viel mehr verlangen. Mehdi geht nicht in 1:1-Situationen, sichert keine Bälle. Ich werde mit ihm in der Woche reden müssen“.

    Mahdavikias schwache 30 Minuten als Joker machten den Trainer fuchsteufelswild: „Er muß bereit sein, sich für die Mitspieler einzusetzen“.

    Harter Tobak. Sportchef Dietmar Beiersdorfer legte nach: „Er hatte doch keine Weltmeister gegen sich. Mehdi muss bissiger, geiler sein, etwas zu zeigen. Man kann wenigstens erwarten, dass er brennt, alles gibt“.

    Mahdavikia dazu: „Es ist für mich sehr schwer, erst in der 2. Halbzeit zu kommen. Wenn der Trainer mehr von mir sehen will, dann muß er mir eine längere Chance als nur über 30 Minuten geben. Aber ich gebe nicht auf. An einen Vereins-Wechsel denke ich nicht. Ich will mich durchbeißen“.

    Mahdavikia am Scheideweg. Wenn der Perser (Vertrag bis 2007) die Kurve nicht bald kriegt, dann heißt es wohl „Tschüs“...
     
  4. "TITO"

    "TITO" New Member

    May 7, 2005
    HAMBURG
    Der Totalausfall
    SIMON BRAASCH

    Schon der Anfang vom Abschied?



    Das Fass musste wohl irgendwann mal überlaufen. Jetzt ist es passiert. Thomas Doll ist in Sachen Mehdi Mahdavikia der Kragen geplatzt. Derart öffentlich hat der besonnene Trainer noch keinen seiner Profis an den Pranger gestellt ...

    28 Minuten lang sollte Mahdavikia nach seiner Einwechslung das Offensivspiel beleben. Heraus kam dabei so gut wie nichts. Dabei hatte der Perser zuvor im Nationaldress noch vollends überzeugen können. "Ich habe keine Ahnung, woran es liegt", rätselte Doll. "Ich erwarte einfach mehr von ihm. Mehdi war nie in der Lage, Zweikämpfe anzunehmen oder den Ball zu sichern. Aber es ist etwas anderes, ob man in der Bundesliga aufläuft oder gegen den 118. der FIFA-Weltrangliste." Dietmar Beiersdorfer wurde sogar noch deutlicher. "Er muss einfach bissiger, viel geiler sein, um sich wieder in die Mannschaft zu spielen", haderte der Sportchef. "Wir haben nur einen kleinen Kader. Da können wir auf Dauer keine Spieler kompensieren, die nur 60 Prozent ihrer Leistungsfähigkeit bringen." Sätze, die den gleichwohl stolzen wie sensiblen Perser bis ins Mark treffen dürften.

    Mehdi selbst versucht, Erklärungen zu finden. "Ich saß am Donnerstag 14 Stunden lang im Flieger, war sehr müde", sagte er. "Und es ist so schwer, etwas zu bewirken, wenn man immer nur eingewechselt wird. Was soll ich denn machen, wenn ich immer nur 20 Minuten spiele?" Seine Folgerung: "Natürlich bin ich selbst auch unzufrieden. Aber wenn der Trainer mehr von mir fordert, muss er mir auch die Chance dazu geben."

    Noch in dieser Woche wird Doll ein Gespräch mit dem Perser suchen. Der wiederum stellt klar: "Ich werde hier kein Theater machen. Wir alle haben doch ein Ziel vor Augen." Doch niemand mag derzeit mehr ausschließen, dass Mehdis sechste Saison im HSV-Dress auch seine letzte ist.

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  5. "TITO"

    "TITO" New Member

    May 7, 2005
    HAMBURG
    Yeah he definitly sucked at the beginning of the season( he did´nt had vacations because of the Asian Games) just like Barbarez, Beinlich....
    But the last games he played very good.You can´t denie it. But coming in a game as an substitute is har for him, allthough he did well.Allthough he has been better then Jarolim after "Winterpause" he´s not Starter.
    And Barbarez sucks most time in the season but he´s never been a substitute!!!!! since he´s in HAMBURG(5 YEARS!!!!!!!).That is´nt fair.
     
  6. Kamran

    Kamran Member

    Nov 19, 2004
    Melbourne - AUS
    Club:
    Perspolis
    Nat'l Team:
    Iran
    you try too hard to act intellectual and fair... but your comment looses credibility when you say Doll wanted to give him a chance and he blew it... this is total rubbish as you and I know last 4-5 games Mehdi actually was good and when he came in and scored after 2 minutes in Beremen game he literally gave Doll the finger... same for the Bochum game... so you see my friend if it was about him not taking chances none of this would have happened!... Doll never praised Mehdi after his good performance either!

    I understand that this stuff has nothing to do with racism and a lot to do with money but sometimes it makes you wonder if Doll grew to hate Mehdi while watching him play for HSV when he was on the bench as a player! ;)
     
  7. Kamran

    Kamran Member

    Nov 19, 2004
    Melbourne - AUS
    Club:
    Perspolis
    Nat'l Team:
    Iran
    perhaps if he could sell T shirts like Takahara then Doll would have kept his mouth shut no matter what... just look how many goals Takahara has scored as a striker compare to Mehdi as a winger... compare the amount of time they play too... finally compare amount of criticism Takahara gets from the coach...
     
  8. HeyaBVB

    HeyaBVB New Member

    May 4, 2005
    Kiel, Germany
    I doubt so, look at what doll accomplished in Hamburg

    when he took over from Floppmöller you were 18th
    now you are 8th ... doesn't sound well ... but obviously it is ..

    And about Barbarez iirc VdV shall replace him in the central playmaker position.
     
  9. ohk4

    ohk4 Member

    Jun 22, 2003
    Toppmöller took over a team in the 10th week that had 8 points. Doll took over a team in the 9th week that had 6 points. Toppmöller finished in 8th with 49 points. Doll finished in 8th with 51 points. Doll's also managed to lose three of its last four games.
     
  10. Kamran

    Kamran Member

    Nov 19, 2004
    Melbourne - AUS
    Club:
    Perspolis
    Nat'l Team:
    Iran
    Great new from www.hsv.de
    so Mahdavikia on his way to leave Hamburg being an “all in all winger” was the excuse for letting him go (funny enough being a mismatch for Hamburg’s system he manages to be the MVP of the game when he plays for 30 minutes.... good old pathetic performance by Mahdavikia :rolleyes:)... it's all about money for Hamburg but kudus to Mahdavikia who dishonored HSV officials by his brilliant performance even if he was only a sub..

    the great news continues:
    I guess Hamburg officials are doing the best they can to guarantee club’s success but only in financial terms though... seeing how Takahara had a great season and scored so many goals for Hamburg (you have to see the huge difference when you compare it with Mahdavikia's goals, obviously Mehdi as a winger should try to score more than a striker :rolleyes: ) as a striker they really did a good job keeping him showing how they treat everyone equally in the team and the number of T-shirts they sold in Japan has nothing to do with this stuff!

    Anyways I wish good luck to HSV... Mahdavikia realizes now that he should have left Hamburg when he had the offers from EPL and loyalty has no value in a team like Hamburg ;)
     
  11. DanielHSV

    DanielHSV New Member

    Nov 29, 2004
    Hamburg, Germany
    So then why don't you all stop crying and be glad that he gets the opportunity to play for some better club?
     
  12. Kamran

    Kamran Member

    Nov 19, 2004
    Melbourne - AUS
    Club:
    Perspolis
    Nat'l Team:
    Iran
    crying?!! excuse me but we are not the one suggesting that Doll is a saint and Mahdavikia is a lazy bum... so don't go so bitter on me if you were wrong! and as long as Mehdi is in HSV all his fans will get to comment about him and his issues anywhere they want!
     
  13. DanielHSV

    DanielHSV New Member

    Nov 29, 2004
    Hamburg, Germany
    I'm not saying that Doll is a saint and I didn't say anything about Mehdi being lazy, but all you guys just seem to think that everyone in Hamburg hates him (which is pure nonsense) and that Mehdi just didn't do anything wrong and plays like hell for years, which is wrong aswell. It's a normal thing in Football, if you don't play very good for a long time then the club may sell you, what's so wrong with that? (and yeah I know, he was in the kicker team of day twice...) Most of you guys didn't even see a SINGLE HSV game in your life and still you seem to know a lot more...
     
  14. DanielHSV

    DanielHSV New Member

    Nov 29, 2004
    Hamburg, Germany
    His stats in the last 3 seasons:

    02/03 kicker rating average: 3,37 /games: 26 /goals:2 / assists: 14/ 16 scorer points
    03/04 kicker rating average: 3,80 /32 /5 /9/ 14 scorer points
    04/05 kicker rating average: 4,11 /26 /2 /2 / 4 scorer points

    All the coaches fault I guess...
     
  15. Kamran

    Kamran Member

    Nov 19, 2004
    Melbourne - AUS
    Club:
    Perspolis
    Nat'l Team:
    Iran
    ok now that you are on it why don't you post the stats for all the HSV players and we'll see how Mahdavikia is the weakling and very different from other players!
     
  16. Vfbstuttgartfan

    Aug 3, 2004
    Stuttgart
    Club:
    VfB Stuttgart
    I don't get it, he played 26 games this year, he wasn't good, but he still played 26 matches, what do the Iranians have to complain about? He was selected in nearly every match even though he was crap.
     
  17. The_Special_One

    The_Special_One New Member

    May 17, 2005
    london
    hehe, I am not Iranian, and i am his fan, and i complain about the comments the manager made, thats all. Never said the guy should have started more games than he did :D .
     
  18. "TITO"

    "TITO" New Member

    May 7, 2005
    HAMBURG
    Ye, but only a few times as a starter. :mad:
    Playing as an substitute for 15-20 min. is not really "playing".
     
  19. HeyaBVB

    HeyaBVB New Member

    May 4, 2005
    Kiel, Germany
    Daniel I haven't seen much HSV Games either , and I live in Kiel :) Just 100km north of you, ok northeast more , but I could visit ya :)

    But I am wit you on this and Mahdavikia sucked this season. He wasn't as good as before, and so he is the weak link.

    BTW Question to the Hamburg Fans
    The Michael Frech from Lübeck, is that the same Michael Frech who played for the Husumer SV and before that for the SZ Arlewatt??
     

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