Can someone confirm for us that one can claim US citizenship based on one's grandparent being an American?
So when it comes time, for his two kids, to chose their international careers, will they chose India, Mexico, or the US
If his grandparent is an American citizen wouldn't that allow their offspring to be citizens also? That seems logical. I would think that first, the grandparent who have to provide proof of citizenship.
I think your missing a big point which is guys like Edu, Gooch, Adu, Benny, were either born in the US or have spent most their lives growing up in the US, in other words they have a direct connection with the US be it thru ancestry or just plain growing up and living here and learning the game here. The same could be said for practically all our NT. Mexico on the other hand are poaching talent who have no connection to Mexico other then playing 2-3 years in the mexican league because they need the help. Guys like Vouso, Franco, Leandro have no mexican ancestry, heritage, no experience living or growing up in Mexico, thats where the difference is.
De la Torre has no "American ancestry". The kid just wants to play in the World Cup. He'd play for Haiti if they made it to South Africa. Guille Franco made similar remarks a few years ago which is why nobody in Mexico likes the guy.
Chivas is apparently interested is acquiring De la Torre to strengthen their squad going into the latter stages of the Copa Sudamericana and next year's Clausura tournament. If he is picked up by Chivas he'll have a bigger chance of being called in to the MNT and maybe he'll change his mind about playing for the USMNT. It'd be really weird to have a USMNT player playing for Chivas. Not sure how the fans would react to that.
Has either Torres or Orozco received any abuse from the crowd so far for chosing to play for the USA?
I haven't heard anything about that so I can't comment on the issue but I'm sure there are some idiots out there with a bone to pick with them.
De la Torre came on as a 71st minute sub in Toluca's 4-0 victory over Atlas yesterday. http://www.mediotiempo.com/fmf/primera/apertura_2008/ficha.php?id_partido=27060
Toluca win Mexican title on penalties De la Torre came on as a sub in the 103rd minute and then successfully took a PK in the shootout. http://www.mediotiempo.com/fmf/primera/apertura_2008/ficha.php?id_partido=29914
If he chose to play for the US then Chivas would not sign him, they only sign Mexican players. Similiar to Bilbao in Spain who only play Basque players.
That is true. While they have traditionally gone that route they have bent the rules to some degree. Jesus Padilla was born in San Jose and it stirred a bit of controversy when that was discovered. But eventually that was over looked. Chivas has reportedly been after more Mexican-Americans in the past year. I do think they would frown heavily on a US international in their kit but think at some point that tradition will be tested. Then it will be interesting to see what they do.
It hadnt been mentioned yet so figured i would throw it out there, sorry for insulting your immense intelligence on the soccer world there buddy.
Anyone heard anything on this guy lately regarding his possible U.S. aspirations? I just noticed that he's playing right this moment in midfield for Toluca vs. Puebla. http://www.mediotiempo.com/fmf/primera/clausura_2009/ficha.php?id_partido=29730 He is a starter, which is rare, since almost all of his appearances have been as a sub so far. EDIT: I just started a thread for the game in the Gameday forum: https://www.bigsoccer.com/forum/showthread.php?t=941297
Is this kid related to Antonio de la Torre, who had a cup of coffee with the Rapids a few years back?
Did he lived in USA? I personaly dislike players like Rergis who never lived in US and really don't care for US, play because they're not good enough for their native country,
umm Diego de la Torre was born in Mexico and his only link the US is his maternal grandmother, who was born in Texas. He spoke out about playing for the US to put pressure on the FMF to cap him and I don't see where he would fit in on the US squad given the fact that you have Clark, Bradley, Torres, Beasley, Dempsey, Sztela, Thorrington, and others ahead of him on the depth chart. Seems to me like you're getting ahead of yourself.
He has more of a shot of playing for the USA than Giuseppe Rossi does, and there are loads of Rossi threads in the Gameday forum. And it wouldn't be the first time that someone has reported on De la Torre there either: https://www.bigsoccer.com/forum/showthread.php?t=822805 So perhaps the next time you're making the rounds on patrol of these boards you could point those things out to the guy who started that thread. I'm sure he's just dying to know.
There's no better place to find Mexican national team news than on the US side of the boards. I mean, you're doing a pretty good job at covering all the latest news. I just find it a bit strange that the kid is being called a yank abroad when he hasn't even excercised the option of obtaining American citizenship.
Your objections to this thread seem to be based on a misunderstanding. According to the reports cited earlier in this thread, de la Torreis eligible for dual citizenship, which makes him a YA. He may never play for the USMNT, he may really be stating his interest in doing so purely for mercenary reasons, but--and as has been stated before--YA status is not the same thing as USMNT eligibility or interest. Unless and until there is some additional information refuting de la Torre's US citizenship potential, this thread and others about him have a place in the YA forum. Persistent griping about the legitimacy of said threads does not, however.
Doubt it. I think it's just a fairly common Mexican surname. In fact, his coach at Toluca and another teammate also have it.