But as a former hard-ass moderator of the US Men N&A forum - when MikeLastort and set the standard for hard-ass moderating - I can say that while it does work, it isn't good for the soul. I think Mike and I both gave it up because we didn't need to be making enemies in cyberspace. Mike and I both still have a fair amount of negative reputation around certain groups of ignorant posters, and it's been probably three years since I stepped down. I still needle monster about some of the fluff that passes muster in B&M. The problem is the personal cost in stress, time, and annoyance to the folks who do keep certain forums clean. And last time I checked, moderators don't get paid around here. There's just no good and fair way to keep jacknuts from starting threads. And having been the B&M moderator when Oliver-mania was peaking, I can tell you that self control doesn't work either. Normal, otherwise sane posters, would start salivating and twitching at the slightest indication that Oliver was around. Sad, but true. So are we going to be blessed with a Belo Horizonte sighting soon?