Pre-match: DC vs Revs.

Discussion in 'D.C. United' started by morrissey, Sep 26, 2020.

  1. sitruc

    sitruc Member+

    Jul 25, 2006
    Virginia
    0 points.
     
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  2. morrissey

    morrissey Moderator
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    Feb 18, 2000
    West Los Angeles, Calif
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I know they shouldn’t give up but how can they not get discouraged. No one want to play shit soccer. This isn’t Vancouver or San Jose bad. They held fast for 85 minutes. The offensive plans aren’t there. It is the equivalent of a Hail Mary every time the cross midfield.
     
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  3. morrissey

    morrissey Moderator
    Staff Member

    Feb 18, 2000
    West Los Angeles, Calif
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Tonight isn’t on the players. Not even close.
     
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  4. morrissey

    morrissey Moderator
    Staff Member

    Feb 18, 2000
    West Los Angeles, Calif
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The kids played. They played well overall but the coaching to connect defense to midfield to offense isn’t there. It isn’t.
     
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  5. Daniel le Rouge2

    Apr 16, 2015
    Club:
    DC United
    How, exactly? Granted, we’re not losing by a touchdown every game, but surely that’s damnation by faint praise. Devon and Dave are really straining to find anything positive to say, and that’s what they’re paid to do.

    Yes, and then I opened my mouth to trash talk NE, upon which they suddenly became marginally proficient. My bad, sorry!
     
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  6. morrissey

    morrissey Moderator
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    Feb 18, 2000
    West Los Angeles, Calif
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Damn. I knew it had to be somebody. Yellow card for you.
     
  7. Daniel le Rouge2

    Apr 16, 2015
    Club:
    DC United
    Yep, I deserved that one.

    By-the-by, you know we’re only losing the wooden spoon to San Jose on goal difference, right? Thanks to them losing back-to-back-to-back 4+ goal howlers.
     
  8. shammypants

    shammypants Member+

    Oct 9, 2013
    Club:
    DC United
    We'll get those games too, once we play Western Conference teams
     
  9. Theopisa

    Theopisa Member+

    Pisa Sporting Club
    Italy
    Oct 7, 2008
    Venezia
    Club:
    Pisa Calcio
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    If there is even a minimum hope that losing all the remaining games would finally force the issue on Olsen, I really hope we do.
     
  10. Eastern Bear

    Eastern Bear Member+

    Feb 27, 1999
    Great Falls, VA
    Club:
    DC United
    I am genuinely rooting for the team to fail so we can try something new. I have little confidence the organization has the competence to make a good hire though.
     
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  11. Theopisa

    Theopisa Member+

    Pisa Sporting Club
    Italy
    Oct 7, 2008
    Venezia
    Club:
    Pisa Calcio
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
  12. griffin1108

    griffin1108 BigSoccer Supporter

    Dec 5, 2003
    Virginia
    What can you say? Another wretched performance. This team has absolutely no idea how to attack and that failure is now compromising its defense. The only silver lining is that, maybe, this is the last season of Olsen/Ashton and Kasper. Of course it would be early Christmas if both Levien and Kaplan announced the sale to someone or something with actual liquidity.
     
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  13. Doogh

    Doogh Member+

    Oct 5, 2019
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Guys hear me out: David Wagner is available.
     
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  14. Hedbal

    Hedbal Member+

    Jul 31, 2000
    DC
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    He's winless in his last 18 matches. He'll fit right in.
     
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  15. onefineesq

    onefineesq Member+

    Sep 16, 2003
    Laurel, MD
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    You spoke too soon, again.
     
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  16. morrissey

    morrissey Moderator
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    Feb 18, 2000
    West Los Angeles, Calif
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I know. It is as if it jinxed everyone. LAFC lost because of that comment.
     
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  17. Daniel le Rouge2

    Apr 16, 2015
    Club:
    DC United
    Now witness the power of this fully armed and operational battle station!

    I promise in the future to only use this power in the service of good. Or something ...
     
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  18. Hedbal

    Hedbal Member+

    Jul 31, 2000
    DC
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I have to agree with the above. It's just too easy to put the onus on the players without levying some (maybe a lot) of criticism on the coach(es) and the system. It's just so obvious that when we have the ball in the attacking third there's no system and everything is improvisational. In contrast, our opponents almost always seem to have something in mind when they get anywhere near our goal.
     
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  19. Section 107

    Section 107 Member+

    DCU
    United States
    Jul 18, 2018
    Right, because all these professional players JUST started to play the game in the last year or two and have had nothing but joy-stick house/rec coaching on how to attack before getting here. No doubt formation, line-ups, subs, adjustments - or lack thereof - is all on Ben Ashton. But come on, all of these guys know the what and the how of what is "supposed" to happen. They also know they have the discretion to change Chad Olsen's tactics on the fly as circumstances dictate. This ain't their first rodeo. Its mostly on them and only slightly less on the coaches for not getting better out of these guys.
     
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  20. Hedbal

    Hedbal Member+

    Jul 31, 2000
    DC
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    You are certainly correct - in part. But wasn't it interesting how the insertion of an experienced "field general" ,e.g. Rooney, perks up the attack? I keep hoping Higuain could be that player, but he comes in too late to make much of a difference. Nonetheless, I take your point about the players, being pros, should know how it's done, even if it is improvisational.
     
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  21. GumbyG

    GumbyG Member+

    DC United
    Mar 22, 2007
    Chesapeake, VA
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Improvisation is impossible without structure. Ask anyone who's played in a jazz group. :D
     
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  22. song219

    song219 BigSoccer Supporter

    Apr 5, 2004
    La Norte
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    Vanuatu
    Maybe but I'm getting kind of tired of watching Kenny G.
     
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  23. PSURoss

    PSURoss Member+

    Sep 30, 2002
    DC Burbs
    He should do really well here considering that Shalke sold off all their valuable players over the last 2 years and threw together a bunch of unproven players over the last season and change. And he kept Huddersfield up with one of the lowest budgets in the EPL, 2 ys ago. No one should be surprised at the outcomes. Wagner is a serviceable 2nd tier and low to mid-table top tier coach. That's all he's proven in Germany & England. At least the time at Dortmund II shows he knows a little something about developing younger players. How does that translate to MLS and is he willing to come here? He's probably a guy with some ambitions so even if he comes and succeeds, he'll be looking to trade up sooner than later. Assuming of course he's willing to come and take a chance of failing in a lower level league than he's been in.
     
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  24. morrissey

    morrissey Moderator
    Staff Member

    Feb 18, 2000
    West Los Angeles, Calif
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    As a double bass and Tenor Sax player I have to agree. When improvising on Sax it was primarily during solos and within the structure of the key, time, etc. On bass - you still have to drive the beat while improvising and moving everything else along.
     
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  25. Hedbal

    Hedbal Member+

    Jul 31, 2000
    DC
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Should the team switch its player recruitment targets from soccer rosters to jazz groups?
     
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