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Czar Pazzo · Nov 20, 2004

Greddy said:

No they don't. In Italy, they award a star to any team that wins TEN championships, making it an extremely rare honor. They award another star for every ten championships won after that as well. Only one team, "the Old Lady" Juventus, has earned the right to carry two stars above it's crest. Those stars mean something. When opposing players see those stars, they see a representation of DECADES of achievement.

Right now, San Jose carries two stars above their crest. Kansas City carries one above theirs, equaling the amount carried by AC Milan. That is how they have cheapened the sentiment.
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I stand corrected. Well I see where you are coming from, maybe it is sort of cheap. I'm still not sure I don't like it anyway though...

Goodsport · Nov 20, 2004

None of the MLS teams that already have championship stars are going to remove them... nor should they.

-G

Nico Limmat · Nov 20, 2004

Greddy said:

No they don't. In Italy, they award a star to any team that wins TEN championships, making it an extremely rare honor. They award another star for every ten championships won after that as well. Only one team, "the Old Lady" Juventus, has earned the right to carry two stars above it's crest. Those stars mean something. When opposing players see those stars, they see a representation of DECADES of achievement.
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That's how it is in Switzerland as well, one star = ten championships. In Germany on the other hand it's one star = five championships.

Bottom line: it differs from league to league...

MikeLastort2 · Nov 20, 2004

Greddy said:

No they don't. In Italy, they award a star to any team that wins TEN championships, making it an extremely rare honor. They award another star for every ten championships won after that as well. Only one team, "the Old Lady" Juventus, has earned the right to carry two stars above it's crest. Those stars mean something. When opposing players see those stars, they see a representation of DECADES of achievement.

Right now, San Jose carries two stars above their crest. Kansas City carries one above theirs, equaling the amount carried by AC Milan. That is how they have cheapened the sentiment.
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MLS is about to enter its 10th season in 2005.

When it's been around long enough for any MLS team to have actually had DECADES of achievement, having one star represent 5 or 10 championships might make more sense.

But for now, DC United will have four stars above the badge. Anyone who doesn't like it can suck it.

Onionsack · Nov 20, 2004

MikeLastort2 said:

But for now, DC United will have four stars above the badge. Anyone who doesn't like it can suck it.
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Agrred. This isn't Italy and last I checked there star system isn't a universal one. We can use a Star for each championship here because this league isn't going to be like the European leagues were only 2-3 teams ever win the league..thus they NEED to have 1 star equal 5 or 10 Championships. I think 1 small start per championship is fine once you get to 5 then a bigger silver star or the like.

Don't like it?...Then Suck it!

John L · Nov 20, 2004

aosthed said:

Here's another bit of useless trivia (but I find interesting) that relates to the Washington Crest:

- the forefather lies buried in St. Mary's Cathedral in Cambridge, England where the coat of arms is proudly displayed
- a few hundred yards from there sits the pub called "the Eagle" where American pilots during WWII used to write their names all over the sealing/walls (the names are there today) when they'd come in from Duxford airfield just few miles outside of town... one famous crew was the one the piloted the Memphis Belle (made into a movie).
- Cambridge's division III (or II) football team is called Cambridge United.

So, there you have a cosmic link to Cambridge via United, the screaming Eagle, Washington, the crest/colors, and their beloved Yanks. Something you can share with your mates at the pub when celebrating your 2004 Cup win. While I was there for graduate school, I was impressed how proud they were of their link to the Yanks.
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Yes - Isn't it wonderful how beer unites us all

soccerphan · Nov 20, 2004

IBleedTeal said:

In 96, they had nothing to do with cups (The three stars inside the logo).
Now, the three stars represent three cups.

Much like San Jose's two stars above their crest.
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Sorta like "I actually did vote for the 87 Billion before I voted against it"?? hehehehe

mosca · Nov 21, 2004

Greddy said:

Right now, San Jose carries two stars above their crest. Kansas City carries one above theirs, equaling the amount carried by AC Milan. That is how they have cheapened the sentiment.
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On the other hand, it is much easier for AC Milan to win the Scudetto than it is for Kansas City.

spidergoose · Nov 29, 2004

Definitely different strokes for different strokes. Glasgow Rangers wear five stars to commemrate 50 SPL titles, while Celtic wears one gold star to commemerate their Champions League win.

Maybe after a few years United will replace their MLS Cup stars with CONCACAF Champions Cup stars. Here's hoping for number 2 in 2005!