Roberto Baggio is a player who had a well defined peak despite the many injuries that effected his career His 1993 uefa cup performance is one of the best in history check what he did to PSG/Dortmund in the deep rounds with some great goals and playmaking that laudrup never showed in any premier European club competition (the footage is available on YouTube for you to watch) I’m not an expert on specific MVB seasons although I do know gullit and maradona were widely considered to be at the same level in 1987 Van bastens best ever European form was in 89 and here he definitely takes a dump on any European campaign by maradona(in his life) All these players except laudrup have defining/dominant showings in major competitions Rivaldo in copa 99 WC 02 In 98/99 club season he was far above any season of laudrup without a shadow of a doubt Baggio at least had WC94 UEFA Cup 1993 And some very good league seasons to support his greatness(and in the best league in the world unlike La Liga in the early 90s which wasn’t much better than eredivisie or the English Premiership) The stats of savecivic are misleading because he could not play often for Milan due to the 3 player foreigner rule in European Cup however were he was played more frequently he has performances above anything of laudrup Without at least 1 standout legendary campaign laudrup can’t be in the running for best player of a entire decade when many 90s players had higher peaks Amongst others I did not mention as Gabriel Batistuta in his role was just as important and was actually great in the Copa America(better than laudrup was in international or continental tournaments)
I respect your arguments, but our benchmarks are simply not the same. Laudrup had a very good Euro 84. Rivelino said that before the knock-out system Laudrup was the best player at the World Cup 86. For World Cup 98 he was chosen among the top 16. He then got the score of Pele: "You're making football with him to admire him. Extremely intelligent footballer who has a velvety technique like nobody." He won the 1995 IC when the incomplete Denmark defeated Argentina with Batistita 2-0. Laudrup (club / continental) - 74 matches, 22 goals, 19 assists Laudrup (EC, WC) - 19 matches, 3 goals, 7 assists. But I would agree that the best games ever played in the domestic league. Guardiola: "Ballon d or nothing is worth it because Laudrup has never won it." I think Puck even published it here somewhere. Well, I'm glad we talked a little.
Your criteria for defining greatness is slightly different from mine and that’s not a problem If it helps Micheal laudrup would make my top 30 all time if the criteria was strictly focusing on skillset and beauty of the game I just think he fell way behind When consistency+big game moments are considered Laudrup was hardly ever the guy to be a game changer Not even like Zidane who is less talented then him IMO(or even as a stoichkov or hagi 94) The greatness of laudrup has more to do with him make those around him better He wasn’t made for the spotlight I don’t think Top 20 all timers should be strictly those who thrive under pressure situations and are the go to players in major championships
Laudrup played in the team they called - "Dream Team". His teammates: Bakero, Guardiola, Koeman, Ferrer, Beguiristain, even Stoichkov himself made the statement that Laudrup was the first name of the team. For Romario was the first one after him. I found your list. For me it is really funny to see Hagi in 32rd place as much as the talented player was. Savićević in 41rd place !!! Where is his international career? I've already written about his club career. All right, that's your subjective assessment. I doubt that most football analysts would agree with you that Hagi and Savicevic are part of it. Same as with me that Laudrup and Ronaldinho are among the top 10. I'm Xavi really liked but 25th place ?? Savicevic is probably not among the top 5 in Yugoslavia. Dzajic, Modric, Vukas, Bobek, Sekularac and perhaps Sušić and Beara were better. But that is your subjective judgment, and I respect it. Can you say a bit more about putting Savicevic and Hagi into those positions?
In the year 1999, Michal Laudrup was officially selected as the 'Best Foreign Player in Spanish football the past 25 years' (1974 to 1999) ...
Btw... when Laudrup was selected as the 'Best Foreign Player in Spanish football the past 25 years' it was obviously ahead of the likes of Johan Cruijff, Hagi, Stoichkov, Ronaldo, Romario, Roberto Carlos, Johan Neeskens, Maradona and whoever else played there between 1974 and 1999
Most recent rankings made by recognized publications are the ones by dutch Voetbal International and britain four Four two, am I right? Can not find a link to Voetbal International ranking. Curious thing is that none of Voetbal or Four four two put Pelé at first, this was on the news on Brazil TV in the time. There was a nice attempt by L´Equipe to make a top 50 of south american players back in 2015. I was disinterested about football for many years and trying now to get some informations again. https://www.fourfourtwo.com/features/fourfourtwos-100-greatest-footballers-ever https://www.lequipe.fr/Top/Football/top50-joueurs-sud-americains/3/ (miss Riquelme on this one. Maybe I´m biased towards him, but the guy was literally feared by brazilian clubs for a decade or so in Libertadores).
I'm not looking to kick-start voting on this thread, or incorporate this list into the existing results, but I noticed an interesting top 50 attempt from '90 Minutes': https://www.90min.com/posts/6367400-the-50-greatest-footballers-of-all-time It is labelled 'Greatest players', but is actually specifically focusing on peak, and with that in mind plus the fact it is 50 players I thought it suited this thread so I didn't stick it on the newer 'Best Players of All-Time' one which has anyway become a general purpose thread with no sign of voting kicking-off as originally intended. The write-ups aren't extensive but might be interesting to look at (there is plenty of attempted humour, but decent knowledge incorporated too). I'm not going to offer my own list for comparison this time, partly because more recently in my head I was actually moving a little bit away from a peak-based effort. For the record, in case the link dies at any stage, this is the 50 chosen by the 90 Minutes contributor (it appears one person chose them rather than it being a team effort, perhaps unlike the lists which kicked off this thread from the Daily Mail and the Championship Manager 'boffins'), revealed in reverse order as in the article: 50 - Luka Modric 49 - John Charles 48 - Hugo Sanchez 47 - Jairzinho 46 - Omar Sivori 45 - Paolo Rossi 44 - Paul Breitner 43 - George Weah 42 - Kaka 41 - Lev Yashin 40 - Gunnar Nordahl 39 - Kevin Keegan 38 - Hristo Stoichkov 37 - Gianluigi Buffon 36 - Johan Neeskens 35 - Xavi 34 - Luis Suarez Miramontes 33 - Karl-Heinz Rummenigge 32 - Andres Iniesta 31 - Rivelino 30 - Bobby Moore 29 - Socrates 28 - Sandor Kocsis 27 - Lothar Matthaus 26 - Ronaldinho 25 - Ruud Gullit 24 - Bobby Charlton 23 - Giussepe Meazza 22 - Raymond Kopa 21 - Romario 20 - Eusebio 19 - Marco van Basten 18 - George Best 17 - Zico 16 - Franco Baresi 15 - Cristiano Ronaldo 14 - Ferenc Puskas 13 - Paolo Maldini 12 - Gerd Muller 11 - Garrincha 10 - Alfredo Di Stefano 9 - Roberto Baggio 8 - Michel Platini 7 - Ronaldo 6 - Zinedine Zidane 5 - Johan Cruyff 4 - Franz Beckenbauer 3 - Lionel Messi 2 - Pele 1 - Diego Maradona
Respectable list as all, although not share much of it. At this point, I think that, unlike Pele and Maradona, Messi has not achieved any world championship, could be considered perfectly the best footballer of all time. Year after year it proves it and it delights us with unforgettable plays and goals. Cristiano Ronaldo also deserves a much better place. Surprising that it is behind Maldini, Baggio or Muller, for example. Socrates 29º ?, Kaká 42º ?, Rossi 45º? ... Anyway, the attempt is very much appreciated.
For Ronaldo: "Ok, ok, ok, I get it. You're upset. But there's no need to be upset. Really, it's all going to be ok. You're going to be annoyed at the fact that Cristiano Ronaldo is only 15th in 90min's Greatest Footballers of All Time list for three or four hours tops, and then go back to your day. You might go back to work. You might do the ironing. You might even bake a cake. It will ALL BE OK." Ronaldo is simply another player who - like Franco Baresi - is hurt by the criteria of this list. That by no means means we don't think he is a fantastic footballer. He is. The stats prove it. The goals prove it. The five Ballons d'Or prove it. CR7 is one of the best players of his generation. A player who has found the net with such consistency that a 40 goal season is actually somewhat disappointing. It will ALL BE OK." Definition of click-bait. "He's hurt by the criteria of this list" lol Might as well have said "my criteria is clearly faulty and my list is consequently crap".
He meant that he feels that Cristiano Ronaldo's longevity, like Baresi's, would be better than some of the players placed above him. I don't really want to get into any CR7 debate again of any kind whatsoever now myself, so am just clarifying this for you (although maybe you understood that anyway).
I do feel like the Maldini write-up is a bit exaggerated to say the least to be fair, containing hyberbole, but he probably didn't mean it literally. Maybe I'm surprised if he is also not 'hurt by the criteria' to an extent, but I think it's only one person's list and he said himself that he hoped it wouldn't generate too many complaints etc so I guess he wants it to be taken in a light hearted way and recognised as just one person's nice attempt which is fair enough I think.
Of course. It is not a complaint or desire to discuss. Quite the opposite. I find it absurd and unnecessary to enter into discussions on issues that are often subjective. That is why my criteria are based on objective figures. I just wanted to give my opinion, even being aware that not everyone wants to understand it as what it is, just an opinion. If you ask me, who do you think is the best footballer you've ever seen ?, without hesitation I would say Messi. If they ask me to name 7 or 8, Cristiano Ronaldo would be among those names almost certainly. But it is only an opinion, as respectable as any other, but at the same time, as easy to not be shared as any other.
Yes, of course, your opinion is valid too just like his, and it's inevitable people will differ in views. I feel in football, unlike perhaps Darts or Golf, it's hard to really present anything as 'objective' as so many factors are involved and in essence it's a team game too, but I know what you mean and I didn't have a problem with your post (I hope it didn't seem like I did).
No partner. Your opinions are always moderate and I have them in mind because they provide wisdom, both in what you say and, above all, in how you say it. My last post wants to go in that same line. I just wanted to clarify my opinion after the response to my first post commenting the ranking.
The two most dominant players in history are Pele (in a Santos and Brazil shirt) and Messi (in a Barcelona shirt). Johan Cruijff easily the biggest difference maker (e.g. Ajax the very smallest team to win the European Cup).
Opinions and all... but Maldini having a higher peak than CR (and many more) is really something else.
This list is a trainwreck, a product of the big nations echo chamber. Although the mouthpieces are numerous (dearman, titanlux, ariaga) there is no way beckenfraud had the third highest peak, not even on his home turf and home stadium. Problem is also which time span you take. Peak of five months? One month? A year?
Falcão is underrated imo, he was like the 1-2º best player of the Brazilian League in the 75-80 period and the some users here rate him as the best player of the Italian League in the first half of 80's, also very very technical midfielder.
TOP50 Maldini 50. Sócrates 49. Gordon Banks 48. Oleg Blokhin 47. Schiaffino 46. Frank Rijkaard 45. Elías Figueroa 44. Omar Sívori 43. Dennis Law 42. Kevin Keegan 41. Daniel Passarella 40. Roberto Rivelino 39. Luís Figo 38. Gianluigi Buffon 37. Kenny Dalglish 36. Ruud Gullit 35. Raúl González 34. Carlos Alberto 33. Zlatan Ibrahimovic 32. Ryan Giggs 31. Teófilo Cubillas 30. Hugo Sánchez 29. Lothar Matthäus 28. Bobby Moore 27. Zico 26. Paco Gento 25. Luís Suárez 24. Lev Yashin 23. Roberto Baggio 22. Andrés Iniesta 21. Iker Casillas 20. Gerd Müller 19. Ferenc Puskás 18. Zinedine Zidane 17. Xavi Hernández 16. Michel Platini 15. Romario 14. Garrincha 13. Bobby Charlton 12. Van Basten 11. Eusebio 10. Ronaldinho 9. George Best (Irl. N.) 8. Frankz Beckenbauer 7. Cristiano Ronaldo 6. Ronaldo 5. Johan Cruyff 4. Alfredo Di Stéfano 3. Pelé 2. Leo Messi 1. Maradona
Thanks for the contribution mate. When I read your post on email (with he video not visible) I thought for a minute it was by Paolo Maldini lol! But now I realise it is the Spanish journalist. Thanks anyway.
I did finally have a go at 125 names, for an updated/latest idea as of 2020 and with my latest criteria (which is still not complicated and largely values idea of peak level, just like I suppose the one of Maldini (Julio Maldonado - interesting that comparing my effort with his there is surely a slight Spanish/English difference as might be expected...which would perhaps reflect that we are all less likely to miss or under-value legends of our own nations in any estimation...and also interesting that there is probably a slightly more pronounced difference even reflecting eras that does seem to relate to date of birth even if neither I or he necessarily think we over-stacked on 80s/90s players in my case or 70s/80s ones from a decade or so earlier in his). I had started to try to reflect the longevity a little as well as peak impact (not purely level) and consistency within peak, without trying to apply it in mathematical terms. I doubt I will try to write any paragraphs about each player, even though that idea is nice and your own write-ups were great as others said 3 years ago! It's possible I could try a five part video series on Youtube with just a few clips of each player, for public viewing this time but I wouldn't want to commit to saying I definitely will as I might well not do (I did make the video for top 50 as per the results on this thread at a certain point - the one you liked including the 'Outrun' music wm - available for public viewing now on Youtube but not labelling it as a Big Soccer Top 50). Anyway, while I was doing it I started to think that in a lot of ways it is easier and more sensible to actually split things into two lists for living players and deceased players. Trying to compare some very old legends with modern players is definitely very tricky I think! I know some players die before their time but that doesn't really apply to any recently active all-time great candidate football players I don't think, so at this point, in 2020, maybe it's particularly suitable to make two lists indeed (anybody would be welcome to add their own to this thread based on their own criteria - not to re-start voting but more just as a place to share such lists - maybe @comme or @Tom Stevens for example would think it is a suitable concept for their own projects with their own specific criteria for example, or likewise @Perú FC or @PuckVanHeel might like to do something based on their own ideas). So here is my nominal 1 to 125 (which without showing the numbers in the combined list partly to avoid arguments and partly indeed because it is hard to try to be precise about choice especially over all eras, I can confirm is in other words Pele to Susic - by the way two living players I thought would be in until final adjustments would be Gunter Netzer and Luis Suarez Miramontes, while two deceased players I had in mind but felt it was hard to be convinced about when deciding on close calls for the end of the list were Tommy Lawton and Obdulio Varela), but in two separate lists that I think are more comparable in some respects (even if due to criteria, or just due to slight differences in perceptions in general, no two of us would be near identical...and I guess we continue to assume that when Voetbal International and FourFourTwo seemingly got quite close to that it was in part down to the use of VI's list by FourFourTwo as a template for their own publication!). Living players 1 - Pele 2 - Diego Maradona 3 - Michel Platini 4 - Franz Beckenbauer 5 - Lionel Messi 6 - Marco van Basten 7 - Zinedine Zidane 8 - Bobby Charlton 9 - Ronaldo 10 - Franco Baresi 11 - Zico 12 - Cristiano Ronaldo 13 - Michael Laudrup 14 - Gerd Muller 15 - Luis Figo 16 - Roberto Baggio 17 - Ronaldinho 18 - Gianni Rivera 19 - Kenny Dalglish 20 - Karl-Heinz Rummenigge 21 - Ruud Gullit 22 - Lothar Matthaus 23 - Thierry Henry 24 - Dennis Bergkamp 25 - Johan Neeskens 26 - Paolo Maldini 27 - Gheorghe Hagi 28 - Dejan Savicevic 29 - George Weah 30 - Andriy Shevchenko 31 - Cafu 32 - Jurgen Klinsmann 33 - Peter Schmeichel 34 - Romario 35 - Dragan Dzajic 36 - Frank Rijkaard 37 - Jairzinho 38 - Kaka 39 - Francesco Totti 40 - Raul 41 - Rivelino 42 - Mario Kempes 43 - Eric Cantona 44 - Patrick Vieira 45 - Fernando Redondo 46 - Jimmy Greaves 47 - Just Fontaine 48 - Gary Lineker 49 - Robert Pires 50 - Ruud Krol 51 - Pavel Nedved 52 - David Beckham 53 - Glenn Hoddle 54 - Ryan Giggs 55 - Brian Laudrup 56 - Matthias Sammer 57 - Rivaldo 58 - Gabriel Batistuta 59 - Tostao 60 - Denis Law 61 - Jean Tigana 62 - Xavi 63 - Andres Iniesta 64 - Gerson 65 - Rob Rensenbrink 66 - Gianluigi Buffon 67 - Teofilo Cubillas 68 - Jan Ceulemans 69 - Paolo Rossi 70 - Sandro Mazzola 71 - Dragan Stojkovic 72 - Paulo Roberto Falcao 73 - Rui Costa 74 - Enzo Scifo 75 - Paul Gascoigne 76 - Preben Elkjaer 77 - Davor Suker 78 - Pierre Littbarski 79 - Elias Figueroa 80 - Wlodzimierz Lubanski 81 - John Barnes 82 - John Robertson 83 - Hristo Stoichkov 84 - Peter Shilton 85 - Safet Susic Deceased players 1 - Johan Cruyff 2 - Alfredo Di Stefano 3 - George Best 4 - Eusebio 5 - Ferenc Puskas 6 - Bobby Moore 7 - Lev Yashin 8 - Garrincha 9 - Tom Finney 10 - Stanley Matthews 11 - Giussepe Meazza 12 - Juan Schiaffino 13 - Raymond Kopa 14 - Gordon Banks 15 - Socrates 16 - Didi 17 - Duncan Edwards 18 - Nandor Hidegkuti 19 - Gaetano Scirea 20 - Carlos Alberto 21 - Laszlo Kubala 22 - Nils Liedholm 23 - John Charles 24 - Florian Albert 25 - Jozsef Bozsik 26 - Kazimierz Deyna 27 - Sandor Kocsis 28 - Gyorgy Sarosi 29 - Matthias Sindelar 30 - Silvio Piola 31 - Jose Manuel Moreno 32 - Valentino Mazzola 33 - Zizinho 34 - Josef Bican 35 - Josef Masopust 36 - Ademir de Menezes 37 - Faas Wilkes 38 - Fritz Walter 39 - Gunnar Nordahl 40 - Ernst Ocwirk I can show a breakdown of wm's 125 in the same way soon (it results in 83 living players and 42 deceased so similar numbers to mine in that respect) , and I can also show a list of the 51 living players we both included, and one for the 27 deceased players likewise (in order of points they'd have if using a full list of 125 players each in order, even if some other players would have been getting a good number of points due to one of us placing quite high up). I'm not going to start combining votes anyway and allocating a running total of points again I don't think anyway, just to be clear again, so it's more as an illustrative example.
Yeah, so the post I quoted had all the names of those selected in @wm442433 s 125 anyway, but here they are indeed sorted into living and deceased players... Living players 1 - Lionel Messi 2 - Pele 3 - Diego Maradona 4 - Michel Platini 5 - Ronaldo 6 - Zinedine Zidane 7 - Franz Beckenbauer 8 - Marco van Basten 9 - Ruud Gullit 10 - Cristiano Ronaldo 11 - Zico 12 - Ronaldinho 13 - Rivaldo 14 - Romario 15 - Karl-Heinz Rummenigge 16 - Tostao 17 - Michael Laudrup 18 - Rivelino 19 - Gianni Rivera 20 - Luis Suarez Miramontes 21 - Bobby Charlton 22 - Roberto Baggio 23 - Dennis Bergkamp 24 - Gerd Muller 25 - Andres Iniesta 26 - Kaka 27 - Kevin Keegan 28 - Bernd Schuster 29 - George Weah 30 - Thierry Henry 31 - Jairzinho 32 - Mario Kempes 33 - Dragan Dzajic 34 - Allan Simonsen 35 - Oleg Blokhin 36 - Andriy Shevchenko 37 - Francesco Totti 38 - Alessandro Del Piero 39 - Gerson 40 - Sandro Mazzola 41 - Safet Susic 42 - Paulo Roberto Falcao 43 - Lothar Matthaus 44 - Xavi 45 - Andrea Pirlo 46 - Gunter Netzer 47 - Dragan Stojkovic 48 - Juan Roman Riquelme 49 - Teofilo Cubillas 50 - Raul 51 - Neymar 52 - Luis Suarez 53 - Enzo Francescoli 54 - Kenny Dalglish 55 - Luis Figo 56 - Gheorghe Hagi 57 - Hristo Stoichkov 58 - Careca 59 - Pavel Nedved 60 - Dejan Savicevic 61 - Johan Neeskens 62 - Alain Giresse 63 - Paul Breitner 64 - Jean Tigana 65 - Toninho Cerezo 66 - Rob Rensenbrink 67 - Arjen Robben 68 - Michael Ballack 69 - Zlatan Ibrahimovic 70 - Uwe Seeler 71 - Junior 72 - Wolfgang Overath 73 - Wim van Hanegem 74 - Bebeto 75 - Emilio Butragueno 76 - Clarence Seedorf 77 - Kurt Hamrin 78 - Francesco Gento 79 - Just Fontaine 80 - Luigi Riva 81 - Roberto Bettega Deceased players 1 - Johan Cruyff 2 - Alfredo Di Stefano 3 - Ferenc Puskas 4 - Eusebio 5 - Garrincha 6 - Raymond Kopa 7 - Didi 8 - Zizinho 9 - Lazslo Kubala 10 - Jose Manuel Moreno 11 - Gyorgy Sarosi 12 - Giussepe Meazza 13 - Matthias Sindelar 14 - George Best 15 - Omar Sivori 16 - Socrates 17 - Juan Schiaffino 18 - Leonidas 19 - Arthur Friedenreich 20 - Larbi Ben Barek 21 - Hector Scarone 22 - Florian Albert 23 - Nandor Hidegkuti 24 - Eduard Streltsov 25 - Adolfo Pedernera 26 - Valentino Mazzola 27 - Gunnar Gren 28 - Jose Leandro Andrade 29 - Kazimierz Deyna 30 - Julinho 31 - Tom Finney 32 - Sandor Kocsis 33 - John Charles 34 - Joszef Bozsik 35 - Stanley Matthews 36 - Jose Piendebene 37 - Fritz Walter 38 - Stjepan Bobek 39 - Giovanni Ferrari 40 - Ademir de Menezes 41 - Jair Rosa Pinto 42 - Arsenio Erico 43 - Raimundo Orsi 44 - Francisco Varallo So it was 81 and 44 players respectively (I counted without the help of my spreadsheet just out of curiosity originally I think). I think it does help in some ways to split the lists up like this anyway, so that things aren't too incomparable for players in the same list (albeit with a few who died relatively young, seemingly in the 'wrong' list at present).
Just to correct myself in case it confused anyone: this video I referred to has just the top 25 from the combined results of votes on this thread (from a point within the year before wm even made his list of 125 players, and considering all votes since 2009 including some by people who haven't posted since then on this thread at least hence we don't know how much their vote might have changed): I think what I'd also done (before that IIRC) was do a top 50 rundown including a selected Youtube video for each player within the 50 as I revealed what I was calling the final results of the voting, or latest results anyway. This is the list of a round 50 living players me and wm both had in our lists anyway, by theoretical order based on points total combining those lists (Stoichkov being the 51st and final name in both lists): Pele (Brazil) Maradona (Argentina) Messi (Argentina) Platini (France) Beckenbauer (Germany) Zidane (France) Van Basten (Netherlands) Ronaldo (Brazil) C.Ronaldo (Portugal) Zico (Brazil) Ronaldinho (Brazil) Gullit (Netherlands) M.Laudrup (Denmark) B.Charlton (England) Rummenigge (Germany) Rivera (Italy) G.Muller (Germany) Baggio (Italy) Romario (Brazil) Bergkamp (Netherlands) Henry (France) Rivelino (Brazil) Weah (Liberia) Rivaldo (Brazil) Kaka (Brazil) Shevchenko (Ukraine) Matthaus (Germany) Dzajic (Yugoslavia) Jairzinho (Brazil) Tostao (Brazil) Figo (Portugal) Dalglish (Scotland) Kempes (Argentina) Totti (Italy) Hagi (Romania) Neeskens (Netherlands) Iniesta (Spain) Savicevic (Yugoslavia) Raul (Spain) Gerson (Brazil) Xavi (Spain) Nedved (Czech Republic) S.Mazzola (Italy) Falcao (Brazil) Cubillas (Peru) Stojkovic (Yugoslavia) Tigana (France) Fontaine (France) Susic (Yugoslavia) Rensenbrink (Netherlands) This would be the list of deceased players in both wm's list and mine rounded to 25 names (Ademir and Walter being the others in both lists) Cruyff (Netherlands) Di Stefano (Argentina) Puskas (Hungary) Eusebio (Portugal) Best (Northern Ireland) Garrincha (Brazil) Kopa (France) Meazza (Italy) Schiaffino (Uruguay) Didi (Brazil) Socrates (Brazil) Kubala (Hungary/Czechoslovakia) Finney (England) Sarosi (Hungary) Hidegkuti (Hungary) Sindelar (Austria) Zizinho (Brazil) Moreno (Argentina) Matthews (England) Albert (Hungary) Charles (Wales) Deyna (Poland) V.Mazzola (Italy) Kocsis (Hungary) Bozsik (Hungary)