Post-match: Crew v LAFC - 2023 MLS Cup - 12/9/23 4:00 PM

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What will be the result of the Crew's 12/9/23 match vs LAFC?

Poll closed Dec 9, 2023.
  1. Win by two or more goals in regulation

    37.1%
  2. Win by one goal in regulation

    45.2%
  3. Win in extra time

    8.1%
  4. Win by PKs

    1.6%
  5. Lose by PKs

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  6. Lose in extra time

    1.6%
  7. Lose by one goal in regulation

    1.6%
  8. Lose by two or more goals in regulation

    3.2%
  9. See results

    1.6%
  1. stanger

    stanger BigSoccer Supporter

    Nov 29, 2008
    Columbus
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Isn’t Houston bigger than Dallas? Yet people always talk about Dallas.

    I wonder if they feel disrespected by that.
     
  2. Minnman

    Minnman Member+

    Feb 11, 2000
    Columbus, OH, USA
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    This match seems like a classic rock vs. hard place match-up. Which could result in a great game. But also could see one side holding while the other breaks. LAFC's concede possession/counter-attacking style has worked flawlessly in the playoffs. They're not racked up a ton of goals (except vs. Vancouver in their first match), but have also given up zero. Then again, they've not faced a team that attacks - and scores - like the Crew.

    If there's ever a match where the team scoring the first goal will have a huge advantage, it may be this one. If it's us, we'll force LAFC into trying to play a game that they're simply not accustomed to playing; and it's not as though our counter-attack is lackingm, either. If it's them, their concede possession/counter-attack approach becomes all the more dealy as we push harder to equalize.
     
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  3. Minnman

    Minnman Member+

    Feb 11, 2000
    Columbus, OH, USA
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The Dallas MSA population is about a half million larger than Houston's and it's growing more quickly.
     
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  4. TrueCrew

    TrueCrew Member+

    Dec 22, 2003
    Columbus, OH
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    #154 TrueCrew, Dec 7, 2023
    Last edited: Dec 7, 2023
    LA is kind of the perfect team to beat us. They have the leagues best counterattacking player in Bouanga. And Vela and Olivers are dangerous partners. Their FB's get involved. Hollinghead is their 3rd leading scorer.

    They have a defense that has pitched 3 shutouts in 4 PO games and are more than confirtable soaking up pressure & countering, giving up roughly 70% possession to Houston & Seattle. Chiellini is one of the best to ever do it at CB.

    They are excellent on set pieces. Hollingshead has 3 PO set piece goals and as a team they score a bunch.

    Other then NYRB, they vrcreate the most offensive third TO's in the league.

    On the other hand, we are the team you don't wanna concede the ball too. We are not Houston.

    I think it is a real Ali v Foreman situation. Except we wear YOU down while attacking.
     
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  5. DAFCrew

    DAFCrew Member+

    Feb 27, 2007
    Terre Haute, Indiana
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    That is a fantastic comparison, which seldom seems to happen between boxing and soccer.

    One obvious difference: Instead of the Rumble in the Jungle, this could be billed as "the battle between the league's darling franchise vs. those bastard children who won't go away no matter how badly Donny Garbage wants them to in a deceptively sized and populated Midwestern City."

    Oh, sure, that title seems a bit long and impractical. But still . . .
     
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  6. Bill Archer

    Bill Archer BigSoccer Supporter

    Mar 19, 2002
    Washington, NC
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I'm not sure that this is so.

    I saw a podcast yesterday from the MLS guys (Wiebe, etc.) where they specifically called Columbus "the team everybody loves" and LAFC "the most hated team in the league".

    Now I'm sure that by now everyone has heard my theory that the Crew is a whole bunch of people's second favorite team, but I don't think that's it. At this point enough people have watched them play and said "Man, that's fun to watch".

    While the concept of the Crew being everyone's darling may take a bit of getting used to (and of course they hate us at MLS HQ because the boss hates us - it's hardly a secret) at the moment at least Nancyball has caught a lot of people's fancy.
     
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  7. soccerncbus

    soccerncbus Member+

    Columbus Crew
    United States
    Mar 29, 2018
    I'm much more concerned about Bouanga than Vela. Vela has not looked great recently, only has 1 assist and 0 goals in his last 10 games, and had multiple great scoring opportunities against Houston that he didn't put away. Bouanga, on the other hand, has been on fire. He has 10 goals and 1 assist in his last 10 games.

    With that said, Vela definitely possesses the quality to hurt us if he can raise his level a bit from where he's been recently.
     
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  8. DAFCrew

    DAFCrew Member+

    Feb 27, 2007
    Terre Haute, Indiana
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    I really like the sound of this, and I hope it's actually a thing. God knows, we got a lot of meaningful support from all over the place during STC, and yes, Nancy Ball is one of the best products on the market, sure to see lots of imitation. The chip on my shoulder is almost entirely league related, at this point, and I am sure I would be a much happier person were I to evolve from "Everyone hates us, we don't care" to "I'd like to buy the world a Crew."

    Maybe a win on Saturday gets me further down that evolutionary path, where I'd so dearly love to go. But for now, I have just enough scar tissue to respond, simply, isn't it pretty to think so.
     
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  9. Ch(Elsey)

    Ch(Elsey) Member+

    Columbus Crew
    United States
    May 2, 2003
    Green, Ohio
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Yes. Very concerned about our backline.
     
  10. Paul171121

    Paul171121 Member+

    Columbus Crew
    United States
    Dec 14, 2018
    Think Amundsen in at LWB is a possibility
     
  11. stanger

    stanger BigSoccer Supporter

    Nov 29, 2008
    Columbus
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Starting Farsi and letting Gressel come in against a tired defense has worked pretty well the last few games.
     
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  12. chr1st

    chr1st Member+

    Jan 19, 2011
    Dayton
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    All gas, no brakes, bay-bee!

    YOU CAN'T LOSE IF YOU NEVER STOP GOALING
     
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  13. the_rickler

    the_rickler Member+

    Feb 9, 2013
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Y’all are thinking too hard and worrying too much. Nancy is going to come in, kick some ass, and walk out carrying the cup.
     
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  14. the_rickler

    the_rickler Member+

    Feb 9, 2013
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Okay, when I said, “y’all” I didn’t mean this guy.
     
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  15. Ch(Elsey)

    Ch(Elsey) Member+

    Columbus Crew
    United States
    May 2, 2003
    Green, Ohio
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I need your energy.
     
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  16. chr1st

    chr1st Member+

    Jan 19, 2011
    Dayton
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
     
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  17. chr1st

    chr1st Member+

    Jan 19, 2011
    Dayton
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Team full of poets and philosophers:
     
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  18. soccerncbus

    soccerncbus Member+

    Columbus Crew
    United States
    Mar 29, 2018
    In addition to all of what you've stated here regarding league-wide interest, the team really seems on the verge of becoming "mainstream" within Columbus and a large reason for that is the way Nancy has us playing. Up until the last couple years, the Crew has always been a niche item within the Columbus sports and entertainment landscape. The amount of conversations I've had or overheard at work relating to the Crew over the last few weeks has been incredible. It used to be a rarity to hear someone else openly talking about the Crew, or to be able to talk about the Crew without the other person being totally clueless about the subject, but that's no longer the case.

    If we can win on Saturday and continue this style of exciting and successful play through next season, I think we'll really see support for the team solidified within that "mainstream" status. We seem to be on the verge of joining the top tier of MLS teams in terms of their position within their local sports and entertainment landscape.
     
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  19. Ch(Elsey)

    Ch(Elsey) Member+

    Columbus Crew
    United States
    May 2, 2003
    Green, Ohio
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I like this extreme optimism and confidence.
     
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  20. the_rickler

    the_rickler Member+

    Feb 9, 2013
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    “Mainstream”? Columbus just doesn’t have the business metrics for this….
     
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  21. Kyle Crew

    Kyle Crew Member+

    Feb 23, 2013
    Columbus, Ohio
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I thought we were favorites against Cincy, but not against LAFC. They have guys that can finish off counterattacks.
     
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  22. 96er

    96er Member

    Aug 22, 2006
    Columbus
    LAFC are an absolute nightmare on set pieces. Columbus are not great at defending them nor are they dangerous with them offensively. It’s a bad matchup there.

    LAFC are an absolute nightmare in the counter. Bouanga WILL get a clear chance in this game, as Columbus have given up clear chances in every game, and his record this year shows he will very very likely finish that chance. It’s a bad matchup there.

    Columbus have Cucho. Columbus have Wilfred Nancy. LAFC do not. That’s a bad matchup for them.

    This could be an absolute all time classic game. If Columbus are going to win, they are going to have to outscore LAFC. It is not going to be 0-0 or 1-0. Columbus have shown repeatedly the ability to outscore opponents while giving up clear chances.

    Adding to the layers of intrigue and pressure and drama: the possible last games in respective team colors for Cucho, Nancy, Vela, and Chiellini. All will be desperate for a trophy. I absolutely cannot wait, and feel like I might explode before kickoff.
     
  23. Ch(Elsey)

    Ch(Elsey) Member+

    Columbus Crew
    United States
    May 2, 2003
    Green, Ohio
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Okay, okay. Here I go.


    Diego Rossi will show up against his former club. He has had his share of naysayers since his acquisition. Rossi will be brilliant to see.

    The timeline for the team’s chemistry accelerated at an astonishing speed. A whole list of incredible soccer personnel within this team from Nancy to Nagbe are contributors to this story.

    This Crew is our Crew. Let the sights of 2008 (and 2020) light Saturday’s game.
     
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  24. soccerncbus

    soccerncbus Member+

    Columbus Crew
    United States
    Mar 29, 2018
    Totally agree. I'm about 90% certain we'll give up 2 goals, but I'm also about 96% certain we'll score at least 2 goals. Nancy really doesn't care if his team gives up 1-2 goals, and neither do the players, because everything they do is with the expectation that they will score at least 2 goals.

    I will be very interested to see who starts at CB for LAFC, and how they deal with our attack. Chiellini has started all but one game during the playoffs over Long. Neither player is quick but Chiellini is probably the slower of the two. He obviously makes up for that with his excellent positioning and ability to read and anticipate player movements, but I definitely think we can turn him into a liability if we have Cucho, Rossi, and Matan continuously running at him. He's given up a few bad fouls (and got away with a few) in the last couple games but all were outside the box. If we can be as advanced as we typically are and force him to defend inside the box, I think there's a decent chance we can win a penalty off him.
     
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  25. 96er

    96er Member

    Aug 22, 2006
    Columbus
    The thought just popped into my head about the crowd and the effect of giving up the first goal. I think most of us here unfortunately remember MLS Cup 2015, and how going down 2 early goals affected the energy of the crowd. I was there. It completely deflated the atmosphere and changed everything.

    We can’t let that happen Saturday. There has to be an awareness by the crowd, which I am extremely excited to say I will be in, that even if LA comes out firing and gets the first 2 goals it is far from over. Columbus has scored and been dangerous against every single team all year long, and it’s up to us to drive them forward and be deafeningly loud all game long no matter what.
     
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