Crew Academy Players

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  1. catfish9

    catfish9 Member+

    Jul 14, 2011
    Club:
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    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  2. kgilbert78

    kgilbert78 Member+

    Borussia Mönchengladbach
    United States
    Dec 28, 2006
    Cowlumbus, OH
    Club:
    Borussia Mönchengladbach
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Well, the other major leagues have a draft that essentially does just that. So it's could well be ok with the courts, at least as far as MLS goes.
     
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  3. Bill Archer

    Bill Archer BigSoccer Supporter

    Mar 19, 2002
    Washington, NC
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    #1253 Bill Archer, Sep 7, 2022
    Last edited: Sep 7, 2022
    There are a lot of holes in that article. The Haji Wright issue for one; several teams in Europe wanted to sign him but FIFA rules don't allow an international signing until a player is 18 and Wright was only 17.

    He would have been happy to sign with an MLS team but they won't give you a one year and out contract. (In fairness, not much of anyone anywhere will let you do that. It's not, as the writer would have it, some weird MLS rule). So he signed with the neoCosmos, who were only too happy to do so because it let them crow about how they had signed this kid that MLS wanted. They played it up big in the media with idiots who didn't know any better. Like this guy.

    He played there until he turned 18 and then walked away a free agent with zero strings and signed with Schalke 04.

    The writer also fails to note that while in New York he spent most of his time (around 10 games total) playing for Cosmos B. You could get equivalent experience playing for a high level adult open side or a decent college team.

    He most definitely did not go to USL for more "exposure" and "experience" and "development". He just went to stay in shape and his main goal was not to hurt himself.

    One could also note that while now at age 24 he seems to be working his way toward a decent career he bounced around Europe, Scandinavia and Turkey as a practice dummy with B sides and would have been far better off starting for an MLS team for a couple years instead.
     
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  4. catfish9

    catfish9 Member+

    Jul 14, 2011
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    That's not a good comparison. You voluntarily enter yourself in the draft. You can opt out. Alos NFL is just in this country and only has Canadian league as alternative. We've seen NBA players opt out of draft and go overseas. And even in NFL you are not obligated to sign with a team. John Elway and Eli manning are good examples of guys who threatened not to sign so as to mfg where they ended up.
     
  5. soccerncbus

    soccerncbus Member+

    Columbus Crew
    United States
    Mar 29, 2018
     
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  6. MLSinCleveland

    MLSinCleveland Member+

    Oct 12, 2006
    Cleveland, Ohio
    Club:
    Cleveland C. S.
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Am I imagining things, or did he at least dress for the Capys a few times this season?
     
  7. soccerncbus

    soccerncbus Member+

    Columbus Crew
    United States
    Mar 29, 2018
    He played about 25 minutes against FCC and made the bench for one other. He looks like a very promising player, definitely someone to keep an eye on.
     
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  8. Bill Archer

    Bill Archer BigSoccer Supporter

    Mar 19, 2002
    Washington, NC
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The Crew said on August 12 that he had joined the team "on a season long amateur agreement"

    Which raises more questions than it answers but its clear that he's not under contract here.
     
  9. MLSinCleveland

    MLSinCleveland Member+

    Oct 12, 2006
    Cleveland, Ohio
    Club:
    Cleveland C. S.
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I think Academy guys who play in MLSNP have to sign a Crew 2 amateur contract.

    Yes, I realize how ridiculous an "MLS Next Pro Amateur Contract" sounds, but that's how I understand it.
     
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  10. zman31

    zman31 Member+

    May 5, 1999
    Columbus, OH
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    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Yep, likely gets them insured but maintains college eligibility if the kid wants to go that route.
     
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  11. Minnman

    Minnman Member+

    Feb 11, 2000
    Columbus, OH, USA
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Here's the relevant section of the Next Pro roster guidelines page:

    https://www.mlsnextpro.com/about/roster-guidelines

     
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  12. David Kerr

    David Kerr Member+

    United States
    Oct 18, 2019
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Cole joined the academy and debuted for Crew 2 in the same week. Super talented midfielder, very creative and inventive player as well. Exciting to watch
     
  13. soccerncbus

    soccerncbus Member+

    Columbus Crew
    United States
    Mar 29, 2018
    He also has his own website, so you know he's good. Did Messi have his own website as a 16 year old? I think not!

    https://www.colemrowka.com/
     
  14. Ball Kicker

    Ball Kicker Member

    Columbus Crew
    United States
    Aug 11, 2022
  15. LaMacchia

    LaMacchia Member+

    Jul 12, 2008
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    Columbus Crew
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    United States
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  16. DrunkandDisorderly

    Mar 17, 2008
    Columbus
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    I'm guessing they want people who can be good role models so I'm out.
     
  17. David Kerr

    David Kerr Member+

    United States
    Oct 18, 2019
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Bumping this. If anyone knows people who could potentially be an option as a billet family for the academy please tell them to apply. This is something the academy needs and who knows, maybe one of the players is the next Aidan morris who was a billet player
     
  18. Bill Archer

    Bill Archer BigSoccer Supporter

    Mar 19, 2002
    Washington, NC
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Under-17 Generation adidas Cup Qualifying
    Columbus Crew SC

    The Crew’s 2006s spun off three wins from three games, topping Group A. It started thanks to a late penalty kick from Owen Presthus that narrowly edged out the Portland Timbers. A second-game matchup with Inter Miami CF yielded another win, thanks to goals from Brent Adu-Gyamfi and Anthony Alaouieh. The latter has excelled so far this season after joining Columbus from Michigan Wolves. Midfielder Taha Habroune found the back of the net twice and Vaughn DeRath (also previously with Wolves) rounded out the scoring in a 3-1 defeat of CF Montréal.


    https://www.mlssoccer.com/mlsnext/n...ams-showed-best-in-massive-youth-soccer-event
     
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  19. Crew96Fan

    Crew96Fan Member+

    Jul 27, 2013
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    Columbus Crew
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    United States
    With Nancy coming in and the perception at least that he is good for young players, are there any academy guys who are ready to take the next step to either homegrown status or Crew 2 contract players?
     
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  20. Ball Kicker

    Ball Kicker Member

    Columbus Crew
    United States
    Aug 11, 2022
  21. Ball Kicker

    Ball Kicker Member

    Columbus Crew
    United States
    Aug 11, 2022
    Not sure if this would be more appropriate on this thread or the roster thread, but I see that 2021 Academy Player of the Year Tyler Crawford signed with a sports agency.



    Left back I believe. No idea if signing with Crew, but just thought it was interesting.
     
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  22. Bill Archer

    Bill Archer BigSoccer Supporter

    Mar 19, 2002
    Washington, NC
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Crawford just signed with Vancouver.

    He was born up there but raised in the US of A and is eligible for either country's national team. He appeared with a US age group team previously but just this year joined a Canadian camp.
    ('20's maybe).

    Seems like he decided to go all in with the hosers.

    I'm more interested in Taha Habroune. He just turned 17 and MLS teams are suddenly signing up 17's right and left..
     
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  23. west ham sandwich

    Feb 26, 2007
    C-bus
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Heck, NWSL teams are fumbling over themselves to sign the next youngest 15 year olds


    *to be fair, I've heard that colleges typically start recruiting girls as soon as they are allowed as Freshmen, but often hold off until Jr year or so for boys, since girls are mostly already physically mature by then.
     
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  24. Bill Archer

    Bill Archer BigSoccer Supporter

    Mar 19, 2002
    Washington, NC
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    #1274 Bill Archer, Mar 30, 2023
    Last edited: Mar 30, 2023
    Well of course that's the Olivia Moultrie rule.

    She signed a contract with Nike when she was 13 but NWSL rules wouldn't let teams sign anyone under 18.

    She (well, her father) sued, pointing out that boys could sign with MLS as young as 14 or 15 because they had academy teams, but NWSL has no such thing, and thus it was unfair to make girls wait until 18 to sign a pro contract.

    (And of course the same FIFA rules apply to both genders - European teams can and do sign girls under 18 but as with the boys you can't transfer internationally under 18 years old)

    So yeah, NWSL teams are (cautiously) signing younger girls like Jayden Shaw and Alyssa Thompson, but they have to be careful; they still don't have academy or B sides to stash the kids on so they can't sign too many or they'll end up with a too young roster that can't compete with the grizzled old ladies of 22.

    And of course Olivia is a unique talent; there just aren't many (or any, really) out there. She's already pushed her way into the national team picture without waiting until she's 25 and getting permission from Alex and Megan and waiting for some 35 year old to retire so that there's an opening.

    Mostly though the NWSL needs academies and a lower division setup, but that's still a ways off. It takes more money than they currently have.
     
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  25. MLSinCleveland

    MLSinCleveland Member+

    Oct 12, 2006
    Cleveland, Ohio
    Club:
    Cleveland C. S.
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Don't some NWSL teams have B teams in the W League, UWS, or WPSL?
     

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