Covid-19: Vax Americana

Another player has dropped dead from a heart attack in Japan:

https://en.memesrandom.com/riuler-de-oliveira-faustino/

 

Vaccines are not drugs.

 

You dont even know what the hell you're talking about

https://www.fda.gov/vaccines-blood-...approval-process-cber/vaccine-development-101

 

It has already been established that the earlier players you mentioned had not been vaccinated. Therefore, unless you are insinuating that these players are dying from Covid because they are not vaccinated, your comments and links are not relevant to this thread.

 

Which players are you referring to specifically?? The only one I know is Aguero, he had Covid back in February and appears to be a long hauler

 

No, the problem is moderators allow it to persist.

Imagine what would have happened if we allowed Trump's election-fraud lies to go completely unchecked. The USA would likely be in an even worse spot than it currently is.

 

No, it isn’t.

Do some actual research before you reply.

 

Looks to me like JamesA explicitly included you in the message, which would have alerted you to the post.

Therefore, your feigned ignorance is just that, feigned.

You were presented with the evidence that you were wrong, yet you continue. You are clearly not an honest poster here.

 

And Traore??
And Faustino??
And Leon Taylor??

Do we know if they had Covid, or if they were vaccinated??

 

First, it is irrelevant given we KNOW the vaccine had NOTHING to do with the others.

Second, if you don't know the answer to your "question", then you are admitting this is NOT the thread to be posting such things and you are simply trolling. Come back when you have actual EVIDENCE the vaccine is relevant.

 

Statistical cluster.

 

Leon Taylor didn't die when playing or training.

 

I'm merely asking questions. I want to know if the mRNA can lead to heart problems in some people. Dont you wanna know this as well??

 

Getting my booster, and my daughter’s second shot. 5G weak for now.

 

Which is why the moderators need to ban such people.

A problem occurs when the moderators are sympathetic to the conspiracy theories and other bigotries, and are therefore reluctant to take action.

 

I think more hearts have stopped as a result of Covid than any vaccine.

I don't think there are any stats to suggest that cardiac deaths have increased significantly in 2021.

 

If thats the case, then thats good news.
Lets hope it stays that way

 

Just as a matter of interest, (and without wishing to cause consternation to the majority of the posters here ), I did a google search for heart problems and mRNA vaccines, (which our dutch friend mentioned), and came up with this...

https://www.thecardiologyadvisor.co...syndrome-acs-biomarkers-mrna-covid19-vaccine/

The risk of developing acute coronary syndrome (ACS) significantly increased in patients after receiving mRNA COVID-19 vaccines, according to a report presented at the American Heart Association (AHA) Scientific Sessions 2021, held from November 13 to 15, 2021.

The study included 566 men and women (1:1) aged 28-97 years, who were patients in a preventive cardiology practice. All patients received a new PULS Cardiac Test 2-10 weeks after their second COVID-19 vaccine. This test result was compared with a PULS score from 3-5 months prevaccination. The PULS Cardiac Test measures multiple protein biomarkers, including hepatocyte growth factor [HGF], soluble Fas, and IL-16, and uses the results to calculate a 5-year risk score for new ACS. The PULS score increases with above-normal elevation. All participants received this test every 3-6 months for 8 years.​

A few points worth mentioning.

1. This appears to a study carried out on people part of a 'preventive cardiology study' which I assume, (although I don't know), means people likely to be predisposed to cardiovascular disease?
2. As we've discussed with the vaccine studies, how many of these people, (the 566 mentioned), had been infected with covid and it was that that was the cause for these higher readings.
3. It appears the main author was a serious scientific person in the past but now also offer various 'products' which, whilst it doesn't completely refute any of the science, at least raises questions, (and we all know how much I love me some questions ), about his veracity.
4. Is this an example of the 'single study' syndrome?
5. I assume this report to the AHA will be studied and we'll know more when it is.

Anyway, just thought I'd mention it.

Speaking as someone for whom the issue of a propensity to heart disease, (point 1), is probably relevant, the obvious question is, does this incline me not to get an mRNA vaccine if that's what my doctor says I should get. To which my response is... what am I?! A fecking doctor?

 

Some possible good news on Omicron.

So, while it appears transmission is sky high. Some early verbal report from front line doctors is that it's presenting with different, yet
milder symptoms.

I should caveat it that by saying SA has a much much younger population than most developed countries. And, it's mostly anecdotal, it might be a bit of positive news.

Keeping the fingers crossed.

 

Yeah, I just saw that...

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/nov/26/south-africa-b11529-covid-variant-vaccination

However, Dr Angelique Coetzee, chair of the South African Medical Association and a practising GP based in Pretoria, said it was “premature” to make predictions of a health crisis.

“It’s all speculation at this stage. It may be it’s highly transmissible, but so far the cases we are seeing are extremely mild,” she said. “Maybe two weeks from now I will have a different opinion, but this is what we are seeing. So are we seriously worried? No. We are concerned and we watch what’s happening. But for now we’re saying, ‘OK: there’s a whole hype out there. [We’re] not sure why.’”​

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There's a thread there and I saw this one in particular...

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Basically, get the damn jab.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-59442129

Anyway, let's hope for the best