Covid-19: Vax Americana

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  1. JohnR

    JohnR Member+

    Jun 23, 2000
    Chicago, IL
    A town next to Danville was where my neighbor went. I think it was Hoopeston. He said, "You should have seen that place. No masks. People walking around in camo gear and carrying pieces." The culture gap between the burbs and Downstate has never been larger.
     
  2. Bluto11

    Bluto11 The sky is falling!

    May 16, 2003
    Chicago, IL
    Moderna number 2 scheduled for April 15th, can't wait!
     
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  3. bungadiri

    bungadiri Super Moderator
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    Jan 25, 2002
    Acnestia
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    United States
    I'm up for mine on April 28.
     
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  4. BocaFan

    BocaFan Member+

    Aug 18, 2003
    Queens, NY
    You also have to add the hospitalizations. Going to hospital <> "mild". So probably (guessing here) more like 5%.
     
  5. JamesA

    JamesA Member+

    Dec 7, 2004
    Victoria
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
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    Thats a snapshot from a 2020 CDC study. It's around 10% for healthy people with no comorbidity. But about 20% overall.

    Obviously rates fluctuate with age too and the health care ability in general for the country of origin.

    But, the new variants P1 and B117 came after this study and they appear with early indications to hit younger populations much harder and faster. It's a big concern to watch carefully.
     
  6. stanger

    stanger BigSoccer Supporter

    Nov 29, 2008
    Columbus
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The only thing I fear is where you got your education.
     
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  7. ASU55RR

    ASU55RR Member+

    Jul 31, 2004
    Brooklyn, NY/Brno,CZ
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    Nat'l Team:
    Czechia
    I got my 5G mind control chip this morning, J&J/Janssen single dose.
     
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  8. Those are the victims of covid itself. What it doesnot take in the calculation is the collateral damage of patients (cancer/heart disease/etc) who had to postpone treatments because covid patients flooded the available beds and as a result either died or had a not so good healing because of the delay.
     
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  9. JamesA

    JamesA Member+

    Dec 7, 2004
    Victoria
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    Yes, 100% agreed.

    It also doesn't look at Long Covid either.
     
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  10. Well, we got the cause of the shortage in computer chips pinned. It's because of the billions of Bill chips needed for the vaccins.
     
  11. Trvmp University, the best.
    I read it on tweeter.
     
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  12. mette72

    mette72 Member

    Sep 29, 2000
    Free America
    Explain to me how I am wrong when the link I provided actually says 99.6% of all active cases in mild condition. This is not my opinion, this is not your opinion...this is stated on the web site, Worldometer.

    All your hypothetical bullshit is just that...bullshit...just wait two weeks...just wait for the hospitals to turn away people...just wait...

    But like I said before...just keep fearing it, keep listening to the news donkey spreading the fear...just keep masturbating to all the fear porn out there. Never leave your house again, order all you need from Amazon, work from home via your laptop and have your Zoom birthday parties or whatever...and if you have to go out, make sure to wear 3 masks, because it must be safer than 2.

    So scary!
     
  13. song219

    song219 BigSoccer Supporter

    Apr 5, 2004
    La Norte
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    Vanuatu
    It was my understanding that there would be no math.
     
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  14. Knave

    Knave Member+

    May 25, 1999
    Got my first Moderna shot. So far I'm also really enjoying the 5G reception the vaccine microchips deliver. Quite invigorating, actually. Great work, Bill Gates!
     
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  15. JamesA

    JamesA Member+

    Dec 7, 2004
    Victoria
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Do you get a better signal for CNN or MSNBC?
     
  16. xtomx

    xtomx Member+

    Chicago Fire
    Sep 6, 2001
    Northern Wisconsin, but not far from civilization
    Club:
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    I am not Andrew Hauptman, former owner of the Chicago Fire.
    (very, very inside joke from the Chicago Fire board)
     
  17. mette72

    mette72 Member

    Sep 29, 2000
    Free America
    Interesting...but a very early snapshot based on data from November 12, 2019 to March 28, 2020. I wonder how that data would hold if it was from Nov 2019 to March 2021?
     
  18. xtomx

    xtomx Member+

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    Sep 6, 2001
    Northern Wisconsin, but not far from civilization
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    #93 xtomx, Apr 9, 2021
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    You don't consider death more than a "mild condition." The death rate according to the same page you quoted in the US is approx. 1.5% (worldwide 3%).
    You don't consider the millions of people hospitalized as more than a "mild condition."

    You were looking at a snapshot of the current cases.

    Also, please stop with the "three mask" nonsense. It is not cute, it is not funny, it is not necessary.
     
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  19. JamesA

    JamesA Member+

    Dec 7, 2004
    Victoria
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    What would your hypothesis be and why?
     
  20. Knave

    Knave Member+

    May 25, 1999
    Naturally, MSNBC, since it was originally the Microsoft-NBC network.
     
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  21. Kazuma

    Kazuma Member+

    Chelsea
    Jul 30, 2007
    Detroit
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Get her to Oslo and enough grant money that it could fund three small first world countries.

    Seriously, bravo. Hell of a story and a testament to what we are capable of when it comes to innovations. My God.

     
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  22. mette72

    mette72 Member

    Sep 29, 2000
    Free America
    All I did was use their info...that is all....according to the site, which most seem to trust...or so I thought...

    23,453,090
    Currently Infected Patients
    23,351,268 (99.6%)
    in Mild Condition

    101,822 (0.4%)
    Serious or Critical

    That's it! They, the web site, said it...not me. Yet this thread seems to think otherwise, that the very data that is out there is not correct because it doesn't keep you hard so your can jerk off to the fear porn. It's remarkable. I realize that this data does not include those that died...I never said otherwise. I realize I am looking at a snapshot of current cases, I never said otherwise.

    A few months ago, "two mask" nonsense would have been considered nonsense, yet here we are...thanks to all the "experts" that love to hear themselves talk and talk all over CNN. So why is three masks out of the question? Why not 4? F*ck it, full blown face masks with breathing tanks at all times, why not? But not when you are eating in a plane, Covid knows that people can't get infected then. Covid infects like crazy in public schools but not private schools...covid lingers on surfaces for up to 96 hours...oh wait, it doesn't...never mind. But yeah, I spent hours wiping down on my necessary goods I ordered from Amazon, just to be safe...while I ate my third twinkie and washed it down with a 2 liter bottle of Mountain Dew.

    But sure, label me as a "covid denier" and whatever else you want...I don't deny it exists, but I am not afraid of it...life has risk...now excuse me while I go shop and Walmart, stop off at McDonald's, then hit the liquor store on the way home because my gym is closed and my favorite restaurant went out of business...
     
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  23. mette72

    mette72 Member

    Sep 29, 2000
    Free America
    My guess would be that the "no conditions" hospitalizations (9%) would be much less, yet the one or more conditions (40%) would be even higher.

    I would think, that as this thing has gone on, people that have no comorbidities that ended up getting it (like myself), didn't get too worried about it as time has gone on vs the beginning (new, unknown, etc) thus would not go to the hospital and just ride it out. Mix that with a massive number of people that tested positive and I would think that number(9%) would be less.

    The opposite would also be true. Have a comorbidity or three, get Covid, and get scared...don't blame them...so, off to the hospital.

    If this isn't a wake up call to live a healthier life, I don't know what is. It's really not that hard...avoid sugar and processed crap, don't drink soda, go for a walk. If everyone did this, Covid would have barely been a thing.
     
  24. Yoshou

    Yoshou Fan of the CCL Champ

    May 12, 2009
    Seattle
    Club:
    Seattle Sounders
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    A few month ago, there weren't variants in the US that were more infectious than the original variant. The entire reason they started recommending increasing the quality of your masks and adding second ones is because they started to find the b.1.1.7 variant in the US and that it was spreading even with relatively high mask wearing. This variant is now the dominant variant in the US and is largely driving the current spikes in MI, FL, and New England.
     
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  25. JamesA

    JamesA Member+

    Dec 7, 2004
    Victoria
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Mild doesn't mean they aren't in hospital. Worldometer themselves state critical only means ICU admissions.

    They also state their own mild and critical statistics are "highly imperfect" and should not be used to interpret hospital conditions and/or situations.
     
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