Covid-19: Vax Americana

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  1. Dr. Wankler

    Dr. Wankler Member+

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    One of my favorite American cultural critics, Wendy Kaminer, has a new piece on this very topic... including a nod to fellow Deep State Sympatizer according to Karl K Tim Miller

    https://www.spiked-online.com/2021/09/25/the-breathtaking-cynicism-of-the-republican-right/

    Even right-wing Wall Street Journal editorialists lamentedconservative Republican congressman Anthony Gonzalez’s recent decision not to seek another term, citing the ‘toxic dynamics inside our own party’. Perhaps most chillingly, the 37-year-old Gonzalez referenced threats of violenceagainst his wife and children, sparked by his vote to impeach Donald Trump for his role in the violent 6 January attack on the Capitol.

    We have become so accustomed to threats and even acts of political violence that Gonzalez’s remarks were neither a shock nor a surprise. Extremist right-wing threats against election and public-health officials are by now predictable, if not routine. So are the resignations of officials in response, as is the indifference of Republican leaders to their plights. Congressional Republicans who refuse to participate in an investigation of the 6 January riot, or who shamelessly frame it as a spirited tourist visit, offer implicit support for actual mob violence from the right. We are practically resigned to the normalisation of political violence and intimidation. But as Tim Miller stresses at the Bulwark, this is not ‘normal’. ‘A 36-year-old Republican congressman sure as shit doesn’t retire because he is scared Republican voters might hurt his family… [This] is a flashing siren about just how dangerous the Republican Party has become.’​


    And regarding the contempt for GOP voters, quoth Kaminer. . .

    And Republican opposition to vaccines is only increasing, in the apparent belief that a failing healthcare system, rising death counts and continuing economic damage will help the party prevail in the 2022 Midterms. I doubt that they actively want people to suffer. They simply want political power more than they want people not to suffer. Their cynicism would be breathtaking, if we weren’t already out of breath and exhausted by it.​

     
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  2. superdave

    superdave Member+

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    Source/link?
     
  3. From the days before internet or even computers. It's stored in my brain.
    I'm not Spock, so no ...no "My thoughts to your thoughts"
     
  4. Well, google shows a new twist by "believers":ROFLMAO:
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  5. From http://www.answersingenesis.org/get-answers/features/dinosaurs

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    Some well-meaning Christians once believed that dinosaur fossils were placed in the ground to test the faith of believers.

    (That's a Christian creationist web site.)

    A statement by a Christian on a forum called antivolution.org

    ...there could be two interpretations.

    (1) God planted the fossils as a test of Faith.

    (2) Satan planted the fossils to mislead us to fill up Hell with ever burning souls.

    Whichever it is - doesn't really matter. You can only believe what is in the Bible.

    Comment by another Christian earlier in the same forum:

    Dinosaurs fossils were planted by Satan to throw us on the wrong track, and away from the Lord. "Dinosaurs" never roamed the earth, and they never breathed. They only exist in the fossil state. Do not let Satan lead you away from the unaissailable truth the the Bible, which is God's unfaillible word.
     

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  6. Naughtius Maximus

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    If only there was a group of people we could pay to teach people stuff like that :(
     
  7. Naughtius Maximus

    Jul 10, 2001
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    Infallible, except in spelling where he's a bit shaky apparently.
     
  8. superdave

    superdave Member+

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    Neither of those support half of your argument. The other half, of course, is about the “same people” thing.
     
  9. Auriaprottu

    Auriaprottu Member+

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    Jesus. That's NOT what a damn teacher's union is for.
     
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  10. Auriaprottu

    Auriaprottu Member+

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    At some point, you have to blame them for not being able to pick out what facts might be in the Bible and separate those from the bullshit. I just got out of a conversation with an Adventist professor who was once one of my father's biology students. Dad is rolling in his grave atm, because dude said out loud (well, typed it) that the Earth is 6,000 years old.

    This man should have been interviewed in HS and denied admission to anyone's college.

    How long can people's fear of death cause them to adopt weird beliefs that conflict with common sense?
     
  11. Yoshou

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    Tbh, how many people are dying in counties that went 90% for Trump don’t matter to Republicans, they’ll still win the county by huge numbers. The biggest issue is counties/districts where they won 55-60%. The Dems in those counties are largely vaxxed, while large percentages of the Republicans are not..
     
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  12. When people talk like the Bible is literally the "Word of God", so infallible truth, they gladly ignore how the Christian Bible came into being, edited by a whole bunch of people with their own motives.
    Some idiots think the rapture is in the Bible, while in fact it's a make up story by some Scottish dude iirc.

    Some things, declared promises by God himself turn out to be impossible.
    So when God said he would make the people of Israel as numerous as the stars.
    What stars was he talking about?
    The Milky Way?
    Well, the Jews have some f...king to do then. The lowest number of stars etimated is 100 billion. The top end estimation is 400 billion.

    All stars in space? Only the number of Galaxies alone (we know since Hubble) is in the hundreds of billions.

    So either God was bullshitting, can't count, or it was made up by a human being who obviously has no clue what's out there.

    When one takes a deep look at the existing religions, these arenot about God, but are glorifications of the human kind itself.
     
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  13. The Jitty Slitter

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    So basically we need some vaxxed up dem shock troops to get all delta-ed up and then run into diners in PA, WI and GA?
     
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  14. Paul Berry

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    I guess they represent all of their members.
     
  15. Auriaprottu

    Auriaprottu Member+

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    They can do that without representing ignorance, tho. If Ananais the AntiVaxxer wants to defend recording a failing grade for a student who did failing work and the parents are complaining, that's one thing. But no, IMO an educators' advocacy organization should not be supporting an uneducated viewpoint.
     
  16. Paul Berry

    Paul Berry Member+

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    So the union isn't opposing the mandate, it's saying the communication was poorly handled.
     
  17. superdave

    superdave Member+

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    The first half of this post is pretty strong. Not much to argue with.

    But toward the end, not so much. The main critique I would make is that you are applying modern day ideas about precision to an ancient context. You miss that the Bible is part prose, sure, but sometimes it’s poetry.
     
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  18. Paul Berry

    Paul Berry Member+

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    It all depends on which monk was badly translating it.
     
  19. Ismitje

    Ismitje Super Moderator

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    We had to take our daughter to the ER this week. Fortunately she did not need to be admitted, because there were no beds in the trauma ward. We could hear the staff discussing what to do with an older lady who had fallen and was bleeding from a head wound; where to put her?
     
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  20. Cascarino's Pizzeria

    Apr 29, 2001
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    Why slide an unvaccinated assclown right out the window to make room!
     
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  21. The Jitty Slitter

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    If only there were a fair way to ration scarce resource
     
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  22. Ismitje

    Ismitje Super Moderator

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    The pressure on the hospitals on our side of the Washington-Idaho border is from the spillover from Idaho. The entire State of Idaho has gone to crisis care and several hospitals, like ours here in Pullman and the ones north of us in Spokane, are struggling to deal with the influx.
     
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  23. The Jitty Slitter

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  24. usscouse

    usscouse BigSoccer Supporter

    May 3, 2002
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    Thus saving a hospital bed.
    Perhaps this Covid whisperer could be hired to talk to more antivaxers coming to the hospital.
     
  25. Uhm, no. I'm criticizing the zealots for taking the Text literally.
    Actually I do appreciate the poetic way the content is presented. One of those is the Song of Songs. Poetic expression of religious texts is a common thing in the Middle East, in the Muslim/Jewish/Iranian world.
     
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