Covid-19: American Acceptionalism

Mormons had a show on TLC.

 

The hotel-stay requirement, even for vaccinated people entering Canada, is a pretty big disincentive on its own. Anyone willing to go through that nonsense isn't going to be listening to a gentle CDC recommendation.

 

on a personal level I'm doing fine James thanks for asking). I got Pfizer'd last week and had zero side effects (not even a sore arm - maybe he missed and was too embarrassed to tell me?). 2nd jab appointment is 4 months from now.

what's scary now in ON is (a) the number of outbreaks in schools and (b) the fact that many many more people in the 30-50 age range are getting hit - and when they get hit they get it hard, and they get hit fast. it really is a death race between variants becoming out of control, and the speed of vaccinations.

I heard one doctor saying that the UK and Brazil variants are so unlike the original strain they are more like new virus altogether. I hope we don't end up having a Covid-21 thread one day !

 

Have you seen the US government’s recommended food intake/pyramid?



Sure, just keep eating all that bread and pasta, and don’t forget to chase it down with a nice soda or three...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Obesity_in_the_United_States

yeah, sure....they tell us to eat healthy. They don’t want us healthy, there is too much money in unhealthy...

 

The Irish or any other colonialised people could tell you that.

 

Also, don't worry too much. Although Canada is in unchartered waters right now, if we apply what we've seen over the past 12 months in other northern locations to the situation in Canada now, its fairly safe to assume that the # of cases will start declining soon.

 

Well, it actually was, going back decades

50 Years Ago, Sugar Industry Quietly Paid Scientists To Point Blame At Fat : The Two-Way : NPR

In the 1960s, the sugar industry funded research that downplayed the risks of sugar and highlighted the hazards of fat, according to a newly published article in JAMA Internal Medicine.

The article draws on internal documents to show that an industry group called the Sugar Research Foundation wanted to "refute" concerns about sugar's possible role in heart disease. The SRF then sponsored research by Harvard scientists that did just that. The result was published in the New England Journal of Medicine in 1967, with no disclosure of the sugar industry funding.

The sugar-funded project in question was a literature review, examining a variety of studies and experiments. It suggested there were major problems with all the studies that implicated sugar, and concluded that cutting fat out of American diets was the best way to address coronary heart disease.​

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Food Industry Lobbying and U.S. 2015 Dietary Guidelines | Time

The guidelines are issued by the U.S. Departments of Agriculture (USDA)—the agency in charge of strengthening America’s farming, food and agriculture industries—and Health and Human Services (HHS). USDA and HHS base the final guidelines at least in part on a report from the Dietary Guidelines Advisory Committee, which is made up of experts in the fields of health and nutrition. The Advisory Committee bases its recommendations on thousands of pages of published research, and their report is open to public comment.

But while the final guidelines carry forward some of the recommendations outlined in the Advisory Committee’s report (which can be read here), they also deviate substantively from them.

Some experts contend the discrepancies between the two documents are, at least in part, the result of industry influence. “The current system opens the guidelines up to lobbying and manipulation of data,” says Dr. Walter Willett, chair of the Department of Nutrition at Harvard School of Public Health, when asked why the Advisory Committee’s report is subject to changes from USDA and HHS. “The USDA’s primary stakeholders are major food producers and manufacturers,” he adds.​

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To an extent, anyway. After the food pyramid, I can see where skepticism regarding government recommendations might be coming from.

 

It is the definition of "conspiracy".

Or "KONSPIRACY!" if you prefer. Conspiracies exist everywhere at various levels. A conspiracy and a "conspiracy theory" are different things.

The first is a definition of actions (often nefarious) taken by a group toward realizing some goal (often nefarious).

The second is a pejorative term meant to dismiss someone who may or may not be correctly attempting to explain something by making an accusation of a conspiracy.

 

Is the food pyramid on anyone's radar these days, though? I recall seeing it everywhere in the 1980s, but not so much anymore. Also, there would only be one fat kid per classroom to pick on back then. Now you go to a public pool and half the kids are total blobs! Not sure how their parents can look at themselves in the mirror every day.

 

Your "holier than thou" attitude is amazing, and I just love how you put meaning into what I say when you are the one that actually says it. I never said "shadowy experts" and I didn't say the pyramid tells one to drink soda...I added that part because that is what MOST people do, at least here in the US. Most shopping carts in the store are loaded with soda, at least where I shop...it's pathetic.

You say the typical citizen eats way too much pre-processed crap, and I 100% agree with you. This is a HUGE problem, and we actually agree on something....amazing!! But then you also said that if people ate the food pyramid and did the daily exercise, they would be fine. You can't have it both ways, because the very essence of the pyramid has people eating what you just said people should not eat...processed crap (bread, cereal, rice, and pasta).

I also never said the experts tell us to eat a TV dinner, or drink 1.5L of cola....that is you adding it, for whatever reason. I simply provided a pic of the food pyramid, along with info on fat america.

This forum is fascinating to me, a real echo chamber of sorts...with unwritten rules and almost a pecking order!. It would never fly this way in person, I am quite certain the pompous ass hats here, that think they are in charge in some weird way, would be your typical bullied victim, cowering in a corner at any sort of confrontation. But then again, what is real anymore...

 

Are you for real?

 

The parents are even larger than the kids...Disneyland had to upgrade the weight limit capacity of It's a Small World due to fat america bottoming out the "boats" on that ride.

My point of posting about the food pyramid was due to someone suggesting that "the experts never say to eat healthy..." and the sad reality is that they don't. In my opinion, based on what I see, the "experts" don't really want us healthy...they enjoy the for profit health care that exists here. There is too much money involved in treating the sick and unhealthy...

 

No, I am just in the simulation along with you...what the f*ck is that supposed to mean?

 

Think Big Love.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_Love

 

We too are definitely on an upward trend in BC. Luckily, we have a fair bit to give in ICU capacity, but tgat too is spiking fast. We're at about 110 in ICU.

With surge capacity we have about another 350 to 400 beds available. But its scary.

My parents and in laws all have jabs scheduled this week. I'm likely going to be the end of May myself.

I think second shots will end up being way earlier than 4 months too for everyone. My guess is 2.5 to 3 months with how quickly supplies are ramping.

BC has now done 20% of adults for first jabs.

 

It means you’re a fkn opinionated wind bag.

 

And now Israel have skipped out their bill to Pfizer. And Pfizer have subsequently stopped sending them more doses.

Pfizer even publicly called them a Banana Republic.

Cheap bastards.

 

lol One would think that a fat parent should know better than anyone that's its important to ensure that their kid doesn't follow in their footsteps.

Being a parent is tough but this isn't one of the difficult parts of the job.

 

Just you. I see them all the time (the traditional ones anyway). Not even close. They'd never wear those boots, for instance.

 

Uh, OK.