Covid-19: American Acceptionalism

Exactly. There are rumours that the earliest batch of vaccine can cause you to get impeached.

 

Pelosi lives on Pac. Heights in SF. Barbara Boxer, who used to be US senator for California is from Marin. Feinstein also lives in SF. Kamala Harris is from the East Bay.

 

@M is correct. Nancy Pelosi is from San Francisco, not Marin.

But Marin is my native land.

 

Boxer is from Marin.

The San Quentin post office is great. Right outside the prison gate, and open late.

 

I'm SOOOOO disappointed.

 

So, your attitude towards me hasn't changed!

 

So I'm getting stuck next week and I have the choice of the moderna or the Pfizer vaccine. I'm 57 years old and the time til the second shot doesn't matter.

Which vaccine would you chose?

 

I got the Moderna vaccine. As long as you're not prone to severe allergic reactions it's just a matter of picking your poison, in my opinion. I am also not a doctor or epidemiologist.

 

Whichever one seems to have the most reliable supply chain in your area, ensuring you can get the second shot when you need to. The two vaccines seem nearly identical in terms of performance. And they're both mRNA vaccines.

Personally, I'd gladly get either one tomorrow, if offered the chance.

 

Yeah. The very example of a first world problem....

 

According to this doctor, lungs in people that have Covid symptoms are almost certainly damaged long term. Lungs in people that have asymptomatic Covid are very likely to have damage as well.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/post-covid-lungs-worse-worst-130800581.html

 

It's the asymptomatic cases that truly blow my mind. They are terrifying. I've heard similar stories to this article all over, from many respected doctors.

 

In just 48 hours, the top 25 countries are now reporting 848.96 deaths per 1 million population. That would mean, if the extrapolation worldwide is accurate, 50,000 people are dying a day from coronavirus. There are reasons to suspect some parts of the world where mask-wearing is prevalent should have lower death rates (East Asia & Oceania), but also reasons to suspect that in other parts of the world (pretty much everywhere else) there is massive undercounting.

 

For any of those COVID deniers in your family that you just can't reason with:

400,000 More U.S. Deaths Than Normal Since Covid-19 Struck

I mean dead is dead. Never underestimate the lunacy of deniers, of course, They might argue that we really don't know how many people die each year in this country. But for anyone who looks at that top chart and admits, yeah, looks like 400K extra people have died in the last year, the simple question is: What killed them?

Where there thousands of terrorist attacks I hadn't heard of?
A epidemic if people falling off of ladders?
A freakish spike in fatal car accidents?
Have we been involved in a major war that's not been reported on?

I mean, what's the cause? And it's helpful to see the numbers do, occasionally, spike; a bad flu season in 2017-18, for example. So you can see what normal, precedented deviations from the norm look like.

But this data, its simplicity, and the ease with which it can be visualized and understood... it's damned hard to just argue away.

Unless you're a complete, batshit crazy conspiracy idiot.

 

I would gladly take either one. But given the choice, I would go with Moderna because I would be concerned that the Pfizer vaccine (which requires ultra cold temperatures) might have been stored improperly.

 

There was more gun violence (highest in 20 years - 19k dead) but that only boosts this number slightly obv.

The excess deaths in the last 10 months works-out to more than 1 out of every 300 people in NY City. Yikes!

 

Nancy Pelosi is from Baltimore, not San Francisco.

 

I didn't say she was a native.

 

I'm thinking that the COVID numbers are actually higher than that because of the large scale quarantine. All those people that would have gotten the flu on the subway but didn't, all those car crashes that would have happened but didn't, all those dumbshits that would have fallen head first into a manhole but didn't, etc.

 

here we are in mid-January. general question ... at what point do you think Covid will be "over" where you live?

note - by "over" I mean:
- no longer viewed as an out-of-control epidemic
- "normal life" is for the most part back in place (business, schools, public gathering places etc all open)
- ignoring the long-run Covid impacts
- assumes no major vaccination problems encountered

for me (Ontario Canada) I'm guessing August 2021. might be optimistic though.

 

So Bahamas and Belize passed. Next nation to come up Brunei.

 

September (BC, Canada)

We consistently pull the e brake way sooner than you guys do back East on restrictions. And we release the brake even more slowly than you.

While we are vaccinating at a per capita rate that's faster than Ontario, I'm still thinking September for us.