Surprise nobody mentioned that they messed up the draw! I was wondering what the heck they were doing by putting Bolivia in group B. Even during the demonstration of the procedure before the draw they failed to even mention the restriction of having no more than 2 C'Caf teams in a group. Then they messed it up a second time by putting Jamaica in group D even though they were drawn before CONCACAF 6. OMFG! Can't make this stuff up. So embarrassing ....
It’s conmebol. They’re almost as incompetent as concacaf. Interesting how the ticketing will work out. I’ve heard rumors they’ll be using Cat 1 to Cat 3 … similar to the World Cup. as much as I hate Ticketmaster; hopefully they don’t mess up the ticketing. Like the nightmare we had in Qatar with Secutix
Y como estuvo el único precedente de un torneo jugado en EEUU incluyendo a CONMEBOL y CONCACAF cuando jugaron Venezuela y México?
They couldn't even beat Jamaica comfortably in the Azteca during WC qualifying (nor any of the other top 6 CONCACAF teams for that matter).
And the real OPINION metric: people putting their money where their big mouth is…. Where’s Venezuela?
No, but according to this guy, Mexico is a Top Team and Venezuela is even worse than El Salvador And that's why Mexico will win the group "comfortably." I am totally aware that Venezuela is going to participate, and I will make it a little clearer to you: Just as happened in the Centenario, Venezuela will have a better participation than Mexico. You keep seeing statistics from the past and believing that Venezuela is the same as it was in the 90s/2000s, keep watching second-class soccer in CONCACAF and let us South Americans give our opinion on first-class soccer, woman!
Dude, you should dial it down some. Your opinion becomes irrelevant as you dismiss others who stayed participating on this site while you disappeared from it years ago. Lady "Supa Hot Fire" shot you down with demographic facts about immigrant population in the US, busting all that stuff you brought about Cubans/Puertorricans/Colombians/Venezuelans outnumbering other groups in this country. MEX fans will steamroll any fan group during CA 2024 because they are here in the millions. No way around that. They show up to every match, unlike Venezuelan crowds who only pack US seats if ARG/BRA is their rival. Regarding VEN chances at CA 2024, I suggest looking at it this way: the Organizing Committee sought to protect MEX passage to knockout rounds. Why do you think their *random* draw placed ECU+VEN+JAM in MEX's group? Heavy business interests rule this tournament, it is the main reason why it is here. MEX has some friends inside, while VEN does not. So, borrowing baseball terms, that's strike one. For strike two: VEN defensive line. PER had not scored once during 2026 WC qualifiers, until it faced VEN less than 3 weeks ago. Its backline is now faultering due to injuries, and more importantly because their MLS defenders have been found out. At least PER did. Lastly, VEN fed wants to field VEN refugees during CA 2024. Players who cannot leave US territory, and lack match exposure in Conmebol qualifiers. Works great for sentimental wankfests, but will hardly help defeating teams like MEX or ECU. So, enjoy the ride and keep rooting for your team. Don't expect others to root for you.
Blah blah blah 1.- I do not expect to root Venezuela, and I am not saying that Venezuela is going to do X or Y thing, what I say and insist is that it is not a "Comfortable" team, nor is Ecuador, and neither is Jamaica. 2.- Venezuela's defensive line continues to be among the best in CONMEBOL (Only 3 goals against, 1 from Colombia in Barranquilla, one from Brazil in Brazil and one from Peru in Lima) and only one of the defensive line plays in the MLS 3.- That Venezuela has not gone to a World Cup is not a factor that determines inferiority, far from it. I think many would agree that if Venezuela played in CONCACAF it would have gone to a few World Cups and if Mexico played in CONMEBOL it would have left to go to a few too. Finally, the time spent or not spent on the forum has absolutely nothing to do with the rant, this is the second time you've brought this up and it's totally meaningless.
Apparently, English is your second language so try reading again what I posted. You must be confusing me with another member of BigSoccer. Perhaps that's only natural when you spend most of your energy generating more heat than light with your posts.
Sorry but I cannot take this seriously, Mexico having the same odds as USA, and Chile having more than Ecuador is ridiculous. And this was saw this before the draw. Insist, that Mexico is in a really bad moment, in other times they would pass easily, but this time it wouldn't be weird if they don't advance.
Couldn't beat Canada or Jamaica at home. Lost to Qatar at the Gold Cup. Got outplayed by Cameroon in a "home game" friendly. I dont think they get 9 points. Almost positive about that. They honestly might not get out of the group, and there may be nothing their "home fans" will be able to do about it.
Perhaps....but in that case they would have dumped KC and perhaps Charlotte for stadiums in the NE. And the schedule doesn't reflect that either. Panama is the only teams that plays all three of their group stage games in the Atlanta-Orlando-Miami cluster. No team plays all three of their group stage games in the three Texas cities (Arlington/Austin/Houston). Brazil and Ecuador are the only teams to play all three of their group stage games in the 'Southwest" cluster (SF/LA/Vegas/Phoenix). So in total, only three of the 16 teams get "clustered".....
It'll be interesting to see where they set ticket prices.....if it's $75+ through Ticketmaster (with all their fees), that could seriously impact attendance. You've got quite a few matches between teams without huge fan bases in the USA.... Peru - Chile Peru - Canada/T&T Chile - Canada/T&T Ecuador-Venezuela Ecuador - Jamaica Venezuela - Jamaica Uruguay - Panama Uruguay - Bolivia Panama - Bolivia Colombia - Paraguay Those are all going to be hard sells if the cheapest tickets are $100+ after fees.....
Mexico is definitely the favorite in this match. That being said, were they to fail to win comfortably, it wouldn't be the first time in the last 5 years that they've messed that up. Mexico's record against Jamaica since 2017 includes: - 3 Wins - 3 Draws - 2 Losses And only one of those wins (the most recent, 2023 Gold Cup - 3-0) was truly comfortable and utterly uncontested. The other two were closer 2-1 victories in WC qualifiers, the first of which required a late comeback from Mexico to win on the road. Again, Mexico is the favorite in this one for sure, but I don't think the outcome is quite as certain as you're making it out to be here.
Do we have resale tickets, swapping forum only, set up yet? if so can someone share the link, if not Admin can you please create one. If Ticketmaster is in charge of this thing, touts will have a field day..
Peru and Colombia fans will show up in large numbers in the US, but maybe not enough to fill a stadium without a well-supported opponent playing too. Those NFL stadium are huge by soccer standards. The others I agree will be lightly attended. I hope the organizers are smart enough to use drastically varying face values between the different matches.
I really wish that Uruguay’s KC game was against Panama. Getting into that one will be more difficult now.
Man if Lorenzo can somehow incorporate Cucho Hernandez into this tournament I think he may be the missing link for Colombia winning the whole thing. He has played even better than Messi the last few months within MLS and was the main reason Columbus are Champions! MVP of the Final! He has built a USA fan base and the masses will go crazy for him everywhere he goes! **(I am kinda half joking but kinda half serious.)
Group A 3 prior champions Group B - none champions Group C - 2 prior champions Group D - 3 prior champions Groups A, C, D all have more than 10 total wins. Mexico is the only team in group B which has previously been in the podium
The lowest-attended match in CA 2016 was ECU vs PER (Glendale, AZ; 11937 in a 63K venue). PER fan base looked weak outside of the US Eastern seaboard. Its upcoming match at Kansas City won't have a strong attendance. It is unclear how many will attend its first match at Arlington, TX.
2016 Peru had massive support. Gareca was coach and they finished 3rd in Copa America 2015. In time they developed a massive traveling fan base that culminated with their defeat to Australia in Doha. My Peruvian buddies are disappointed with the current squad and I haven’t heard of anyone willing to travel to see the current team play.
I didn't saw this before. I can't see how Group A is more a group of death than Group B. Outside Argentina most of group A teams are worse than group B teams. Chile and Perú are in a worse shape than Ecuador and Venezuela.