Cool Stadia Thread

Discussion in 'Sporting Kansas City' started by IowaBoy, Apr 15, 2006.

  1. BenC1357

    BenC1357 Member

    Feb 23, 2001
    KC
    Meaning I can make the plastic to make the legos. So without me, NO LEGOS!

    And I've got a few friends that are civil and arcitectural engineers. They'd have us a stadium built in no time. :D
     
  2. Unorthodox Yank

    Feb 27, 2001
    Constant Flux
    Club:
    --other--
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    If we had something that looked even remotely similar to that, I'd be absolutely thrilled. Honestly, the last thing I'd like to see in reguards to a stadium is another PHP or Bridgeview or HDC copy.

    Something like that is unique enough in the American soccer landscape to have a real identity, and it's also modern enough to have adequate functionability.

    Or...that's how it looks, at least.
     
  3. SamPierron

    SamPierron BigSoccer Supporter

    Nov 30, 1998
    Kansas City
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    It's just disconcerting to sit up against a wall. Also, for games in the American summer, it would get awfully stuffy up there.

    The loss of atmosphere has a lot more to do with the increase in ticket prices and the attendant change in the fanbase than it does the trend toward unified bowls.

    As long as you have adequate roofing, the noise will stay in. Mostly, you just need the crowd itself. :)
     
  4. kcscsupporter

    kcscsupporter Member+

    Apr 17, 2002
    D17
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    and lack of terracing.
     
  5. szazzy

    szazzy Member

    Apr 18, 2004
    Kansas City, MO
    Sam, think of a french horn player curving their hand in the bell to reflect sound back towards the audience.

    Having a second wall on the side to reflect sound will help tremendously. However, that doesn't necessarily mean that it has to be stuffy. Air can get through in a number of ways to make sure its better ventilated than the old concrete stands.

    If the wall was clear, or an attraction in itself, it might not be so disconcerting. If we were on an extremely windy patch of Kansas (there are tons), it would even serve a second purpose.

    Having more than just a top roof doesn't necessarily mean 4 stands (though I think that would be the most effective in reflecting sound), but adding a covering to take the sides and back of the stands into account will absolutely up the audible atmosphere...and its alliterative attributes.
     
  6. Spoon

    Spoon Member

    Feb 25, 1999
    Overland Park Ks
    Club:
    Kansas City Wizards
    Nat'l Team:
    United States

    Well you don't have to worry about that. With MLS conforming to FIFA ruling the games will be in the fall and spring. So I do not think it is going to be as bad as you think.
     
  7. PezJunkie

    PezJunkie Member

    Apr 30, 2001
    Independence, MO
    Club:
    Kansas City Wizards
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I still think MLS is a long way from playing a fall to spring season.
     
  8. Spoon

    Spoon Member

    Feb 25, 1999
    Overland Park Ks
    Club:
    Kansas City Wizards
    Nat'l Team:
    United States

    Really, you haven't keeping up then huh? It might be 4-5 years away but by then our stadium might be built. ;)
     
  9. szazzy

    szazzy Member

    Apr 18, 2004
    Kansas City, MO
    Figured I'd start up the raunchy stadia porn thread again. Fairly plain, but since we were talking about open corners for ventilation but having a roof, here's a classic stadium that does that. Not really my ideal style of stadium, but I'd love it here nonetheless.

    Name: Villa Park
    Inauguration: 1897
    Capacity: 43,300 seats
    Pitch dimensions: 105*69
    Record Attendance: 76,588; Aston Villa-Derby, March 1946
    Address: Trinity Road, Birmingham B6 6HE


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  10. TrooperBari

    TrooperBari Moderator
    Staff Member

    Apr 3, 2001
    Jakarta
  11. hooligan77

    hooligan77 New Member

    Apr 24, 2006
    Lantana, TX
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    I'm a fan of the SAS Arena in Denmark. It only seats 12,500 but there shouldn't be a problem with putting in about 5,000 more seats. I would actually like to see the Wizards with a stadium that only seat between 15-18,000. How many times in the past 11 seasons have they had more then 18,000.

    http://www.stadionwelt.de/stadionwe...nlisten/daenemark/messecenter_herning/170.jpg

    http://www.stadionwelt.de/stadionwe...nlisten/daenemark/messecenter_herning/110.jpg

    (I'm a goon and don't know how to post the photos)
     
  12. vividox

    vividox Moderator
    Staff Member

    Aug 10, 2005
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    For one, our home opener this season had over 18,000 people present. Also, in the past, with a permanent owner and advertisment, we have got crowds into the 30,000s (okay, so this was only once). I don't see what benefits of getting a smaller seating stadium would have, at all. We want this organization to grow and our fan base to widen, so what would be the point of getting a stadium any smaller than 20,000?
     
  13. Merlin172

    Merlin172 Member

    Mar 16, 2000
    Kansas City, Kansas

    That's a direct result of supply and demand. There's an abundance of tickets, so the demand is low. A 15,000 seat stadium is highly likely to sell out every game. But then a 22,000 seat stadium is highly likely to have at least 18-20,000 people there every game. It's not about average crowds now... It's about what the crowds will be like in the future.
     
  14. Kevin Lindstrom

    Oct 28, 2003
    Dallas, TX
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    It is also about what the venue can be used as for concert purposes. The economics of it are insane. Sure, these places are aimed at being soccer specific, but they will also be designed to accomodate making tons of cash through concerts.
     
  15. szazzy

    szazzy Member

    Apr 18, 2004
    Kansas City, MO
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  16. vividox

    vividox Moderator
    Staff Member

    Aug 10, 2005
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    Am I correct in saying that one of Bridgeviews four sides is nothing but a concert stage? If so... are the concertgoers just going to stand in the grass? If it's rainy or anything that's going to be hell on field maintainance.
     
  17. Kevin Lindstrom

    Oct 28, 2003
    Dallas, TX
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    After CCS and the HDC, all of the MLS SSS will probably have a stage as one of the ends. PHP has it, the Bridgeview stadium has it, and I am fairly certain that the Colorado stadium will have it. And the reason for it is that most of the damage done by a concert is from the weight of the stage on the grass - a problem these new stadiums won't have. With the right coverage (that allows air to circulate, something I think all of the MLS venues will have), the damage to the field itself should be minimal.
     
  18. vividox

    vividox Moderator
    Staff Member

    Aug 10, 2005
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    So then these concerts could be absolutely huge.. like... 40,000+ people huge.
     
  19. Kevin Lindstrom

    Oct 28, 2003
    Dallas, TX
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Not sure about that. We seat 20,500 at PHP (SRO adds another 1800 or so) for soccer games. We're expecting around 30k for concerts.
     
  20. szazzy

    szazzy Member

    Apr 18, 2004
    Kansas City, MO
    Our feasibility study calls for 6 concerts a year to hit the projected numbers. I heard 3 announced at the stadium. How many are you planning on this year?
     
  21. Kevin Lindstrom

    Oct 28, 2003
    Dallas, TX
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Not sure, but we have RDB (large Hispanic group, should draw well), George Strait and Rascal Flats so far, with another two or three cooking. And that is just this summer. We could easily add another two or three this year (just looking at the calendar - I don't work in that group to know actual details.)
     
  22. Unorthodox Yank

    Feb 27, 2001
    Constant Flux
    Club:
    --other--
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I figured that, given the recent news, this thread could use a bump.

    I still like the proposed Vancouver rendering more than anything else I've seen, in this thread or otherwise.
     
  23. hartley

    hartley Member


    Could you show us that one again -- without us having to go back through the thread. Please. Thanks.
     
  24. hartley

    hartley Member

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