Contenential Championships are always more important than olympics

Discussion in 'Asian Football Confederation' started by persiantiger, Sep 10, 2003.

  1. persiantiger

    persiantiger Guest

    Look At European teams which do u think is more important to them Euro 2004 or the olympics.
    Same with south america , Africa and Concacaf teams.

    I dunno why some Korean and Japanese fans here say Olympics is more important for them. Now thats bull
     
  2. HiJazzey

    HiJazzey Member

    Jan 29, 2002
    London
    Club:
    Al Ittihad Jeddah
    you're preaching to the converted.

    The olympic football tournament is a glorified youth championship. Nobody takes it seriously, for developed football nations it's nothing more than a vehicle to test up and coming talent.

    The dismissing of the Asian cup by some doesn't faze me one bit, it doesn't dimish the value of the tournament at all. They can count number of times they qualify for an international tournament as much as they want, they don't mean anything. Fact is, historically in Asia qualifying form doesn't relate to performance in the tournament. Iran barely qualified in 98, but were the best performer in that WC. Ditto KSA in 94.

    Any sane football fan should be more proud of silverware than number of participation.
     
  3. Premium Hamatachi redded

    Sep 9, 2002
    it doesn't matter if olympic or asian cup, if japan is serious or not, they will just sweep everything withing asia. let the birds sing a song for the mighty japan.
     
  4. Chachi King

    Chachi King New Member

    Mar 14, 2002
    The only important Asian championship is Asian World Cup qualifiers. Period.

    Olympics are important because they are intercontinental ties, in which every Asian team should strive to represent the AFC rather than some pissing match held in Lebanon or China that is inundated by the European Championships anyway.
     
  5. Bauvafa

    Bauvafa Red Card

    Oct 12, 2001
    USA
    I guess Iran is just gonna have to kick some butt all the way around: Asian games, Olympics, Asian Cup, WC qualies.

    Here we COME, here we ROCK! :)
     
  6. Excape Goat

    Excape Goat Member+

    Mar 18, 1999
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    So which one is better silver or black?
     
  7. WuTang2002

    WuTang2002 Member

    Mar 13, 2002
    Bundang, Korea
    I personally regard AC to be more important than the olympics qualifier but less important than the WCQ. But the sad fact is that general Korean public think WCQ>OQ>AC>AG.

    Fortunately, things are changing. I think I've mentioned it a while ago but from my experience in spending time in korean message boards, people started to realize the AC is the true undisputable championship. We haven't been able to field the best string of players in AC due to the time conflict with Olympics and that's probably why KFA has been lobbying AFC to hold the next AC in 2007. That way, we're not gonna have schedule conflict with the olympics.
     
  8. SHURARARA

    SHURARARA New Member

    May 9, 2002
    In Japan, only satellite broadcasting broadcast AC on TV in 2000. 70% or more of Japanese People were not able to watch the final.
    Japanese people think WC>J.League=Europe league(Italy, England, Spain)>
    >OQ=AC>>>>>AG.
     
  9. Premium Hamatachi redded

    Sep 9, 2002
    i honestly didn't even know such a thing as asian cup until mid 2000. when japan lost in sydney i thought everything was over but then the media started talking about asian cup but none of them sounded serious about it, even troussier. then i chekced on the internet to learn more about the competition and found how serious those iranians were. but alas, the mighy japan silently demolish asia into dust with ease and many people in japan still do not know about it.

    this asian cup on the other hand will get much more attention as the internet now spread all over the world and more and more idiots from the world get involved with idiots from other countries. even if they bark "we are not serious about asia cup", as the eyes of the region are onto them, they inevitably support their sorry nation even though they know they have no chance against the might of japan.
     
  10. Korean Football

    Korean Football New Member

    Apr 21, 2001
    U.S.
    I personally weren't much interested on Asian Cups until AC2000 too.

    I wasn't even aware of AC1996 during 1996.
     
  11. Korean Football

    Korean Football New Member

    Apr 21, 2001
    U.S.
    btw I have kinda mixed feeling towards Olympics and AC.

    While the Asian Cup is the "ultimate continental championship", nobody outside Asia will actually acknowledge it.

    On the other hand, if you do well in the Olympics, at least your team will get some global recognition. Ask the Nigerians in 1996.
     
  12. AmoebaCulture

    AmoebaCulture Member+

    Nov 25, 2001
    Andromeda
    the Asian Championship is the most important tournament in all of Asia without a doubt. but since there is a huge gap of skill level between the top tier level teams and the lower ones, it is true that people in japan or in korea could care less. BUT i actually enjoy watching the WCQ more than the Asian Cup or the Olympics. Maybe the AFC should combine the Asian Cup with the Qualifiers?
     
  13. the_13th_redneck

    the_13th_redneck BigSoccer Yellow Card

    Sep 3, 2002
    The continental championships are far more important.
    And for those who think the Olympics are bigger than the World Cup, they've taken the piss. The World Cup is the biggest event ever in the history of the human species.

     
  14. junjunforever

    junjunforever Member

    Feb 18, 2002

    i dont think many people around here thinks olympic qualifying is more important thatn AC. maybe the Japanese, because they got 2nd place in the U-22 tournament or something (everybody likes to put more emphasis on the tournaments they win). I personally couldnt care less for any NT games with age restrictions.

    but world cup qualfiying is much more important than AC simply because WC is more prestigious. anyone could boast they are the best in asia, but historically, that didn't mean much from the world's perspective.
     
  15. skipshady

    skipshady New Member

    Apr 26, 2001
    Orchard St, NYC
    Re: Re: Contenential Championships are always more important than olympics

    Well, that's part of it. But I think the biggest reason some fans weigh age group tournaments over the AC is that traditionally, Asian teams, especially in East Asia, weren't all that great. Other than Korea, no one really has a consistently good record.

    You look at the European Championships; the quality of competition is superior, even better than the World Cup, arguably. But that's not the case with Asia. The quality of competition is clearly inferior.
    So in terms of developing a national team, the age group competitions and the Olympics become more important because you're facing tougher teams.

    Now, teams in Western Asia seem to take AC more seriously, because they have traditionally been better, and there used to be a higher concentration of better teams in Central Asia and the Middle East. Of course, it's changing now as the balance of power has shifted slightly, and there are more decent teams in the competition.
     
  16. Premium Hamatachi redded

    Sep 9, 2002
    Re: Re: Contenential Championships are always more important than olympics

    that was u-20 and had nothing to do with olympic.



    "everybody likes to put more emphasis on the tournaments they win"....."i dont think many people around here thinks olympic qualifying is more important thatn AC. maybe the Japanese"

    think twice what you've just said idiot. i thought you're getting better these days but this one was even worse than what you used to be.
     
  17. Korean Football

    Korean Football New Member

    Apr 21, 2001
    U.S.
    Re: Re: Contenential Championships are always more important than olympics

    nobody argued that the Olympics is bigger than the World Cup.

    It's the Olympics which many in Korea and Japan who think that's bigger than the Asian Cup.

    I'm more in the middle. Because although I admit that the Asian Cup is the continental championship, Olympics is global.

    Win Asian Cup, and people in Europe won't give a damn. Win Olympics, and you'll get some international recognition. Even by a little bit.
     
  18. junjunforever

    junjunforever Member

    Feb 18, 2002
    Re: Re: Re: Contenential Championships are always more important than olympics


    dummy. i know what i'm talking about. when japan got second place on the U-20 (or u-22 or whatever), the U-20 team was hyped up to the max. People said U-20 team and "furu daihyou" should play a match and the winner should represent Japan (majority probably thought their youngsters would win too). Everybody talked about how japan has now surpassed Korea because of the 4-1 win, and their "golden generation" midfielders and nakamura would rule asia and maybe the world by the time they gained more experience. many viewed the Olympic team synonymous with the team that got the 2nd place.





    You're the one who dont know whats going on. Did u even live in Japan when all this had happened?
     
  19. Bauvafa

    Bauvafa Red Card

    Oct 12, 2001
    USA
    It's quite simple:

    You wanna be the KING of Asia, You must win the Asian Cup.

    If you have won the most Asian Cups, then you are the KING of KINGS.
     
  20. poker123

    poker123 New Member

    Aug 16, 2003
    That feather in your cap must be lonely.
     
  21. Premium Hamatachi redded

    Sep 9, 2002
    Re: Re: Re: Re: Contenential Championships are always more important than olympics

    so? is this what i was talking about? you just reminded me of good old days.

    i was only pointing out this particular comment of yours.

    "everybody likes to put more emphasis on the tournaments they win"....."i dont think many people around here thinks olympic qualifying is more important thatn AC. maybe the Japanese"

    do i really need to say what's so wrong about this??? c'mon, i know you're better than this...

    very unfortunately to your expectation and knowing that you wanted to ask me this fro long long time, i still have to say "yes"


    junjunforever, master hamatachi is very proud of you and your recent challenge against me, but meantime i am quite disappointed that you still leave plenty of room for inprovement. i'll swallow your word as much as you want me to and will be harsh upon you when it's due but then again that's because i truely love you. you shall leave your master when he truely admits his defeat and he is sincerely waiting for the day to come.
     
  22. skipshady

    skipshady New Member

    Apr 26, 2001
    Orchard St, NYC
    The thing is, some people take credibility outside of Asia more seriously than being the King of Asia. This isn't meant as an insult against other Asian nations, mind you. It's just that to many people, doing well in competitions against teams outside of Asia has always been more meaningful than being a big fish in a small pond.
     
  23. junjunforever

    junjunforever Member

    Feb 18, 2002
    Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Contenential Championships are always more important than olympics


    yeah. this was exactly what i was talking about. u-20 national team didnt mean jack until japan got second place. Koreans dont like to put emphasis on asian cup cause we can never win it. iranians dont like to put emphasis on WC qualifying cause they dont do too good. its that simple.
     
  24. Premium Hamatachi redded

    Sep 9, 2002
    you'd better get handjobs on a massage chair once
     
  25. Saudi Bill

    Saudi Bill New Member

    Aug 6, 2001
    Riyadh, Saudi Arabia
    If its world exposer you are looking for, what about the fifa's inter-Continental cup. You will get loads of credibility if win that one after getting the Asian cup... no?

    To answer the guy that wrote about an asian power shift from west asia to east asia. I think its still at its begining, nothing major yet. The coming china CUP ( :D ) will defantley make the power shift clearer.
     

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