After reading the "let's get rid of families" thread, I realized that we could all do ourselves and the Rapids a favor by coming up with some constructive ideas for improving the atmosphere at the games. Bitch sessions won't do much to change that atmosphere, good ideas will. What if the Rapids front office were to spring for a big green or green and white flag with the Rapids logo on it? I'm not talking just a little flag, I'm talking some big, 2 to 3 section wide flag that they pull out when the team comes on the field at the beginning of the match. You put that in the center couple of sections, it looks really cool, and then you take it down before the match starts. Of course, the people in those sections won't see the Rapids come on to the field, but they will be participating in the environment. I'm assuming the center of the field (opposite TV cameras) is where most of the consistent fan base sits... I remember seeing them make these big banners when I lived in Spain, and they would unfurl them before the match started and I just got a rush of adrenalin, feeling like I was at a big time soccer game, well, it was a big time soccer game.... I think Sam's Army tried it at one of the World Cup qualifiers a couple of years ago, maybe in Columbus... But the point is that little things like that, just for 30 seconds to 1 minute duration before the match, really set the tone for the rest of the game. People knew they were at a soccer game, unique to other sporting events. Team USA in the "families thread" mentioned allowing flags into the stadium. That's a good idea too. I also think it's a good idea to have all the Rapids' fans who want to be vocal, involved, on their feet and singing, to be in a single area of the stadium (I know that section 129? is already reserved for that, I think they should keep it that way). They do it all over Europe, putting the fan clubs together, and their chants eventually lead the entire stadium. Don't think that there aren't families, kids, parents and suburbanites at European matches. They are there too. The atmosphere will change, but what we are experiencing as soccer fans are the early growing pains of a fledgling league. There will be chanting, there will be a fanatical following, but we can't expect it to happen overnight. Most clubs in Europe have 50+ years of tradition behind them. It would be unreasonable for us to think that we could match their chants, cheers and rivalries when the MLS is only in its 7th full season. Look at Sam's Army, they have grown by leaps and bounds in the last 10-12 years. The US nats are developing a good following. MLS growth and tradition is right around the corner. Give it a couple of years, say 5-10 and we will see a difference.