Consolidate the various USL leagues into the A-League

Discussion in 'United Soccer Leagues' started by soccer4ever, Jul 30, 2002.

  1. soccer4ever

    soccer4ever New Member

    Jun 1, 2001
    USA
    It would be a lot easier to follow, and the A-League would be alot more fun to watch.

    What do you all think?
     
  2. Mimir19

    Mimir19 Member

    Jan 28, 2001
    Buffalo, NY
    My big question is this: How would it be easier to follow.. You would have way too many teams in one massive league.. Or are you just talking D3 and A-League?
     
  3. fanmaster

    fanmaster New Member

    Jun 28, 2002
    memphis, tn
    Plus how about the money? The letter of credit and the franchise fee are part of the things that keep lower teams from moving up anyway.
     
  4. Mimir19

    Mimir19 Member

    Jan 28, 2001
    Buffalo, NY
    I think in the future USL has the potential of building itself into something huge..It will be a slow process that takes at least 10 years. But by then you will see an enormous amount of teams that play pretty much a regional based schedule. The big killer for budgets is the travel.. Most A-League teams could be really profitable if it weren't for the travel expenses. This is another thing that keeps D3 teams from making the move up. Same goes for PDL. But as these lower two leagues grow, so will A-League.
     
  5. panicfc

    panicfc Member+

    Dec 22, 2000
    In my chair, typing
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    My concern is both the A-League and D3 will will have attrition and be forced to merge in order to have competition.

    It would be better to move that way now, save the teams money, and build up. Better to be pro-active, than re-active.
     
  6. soccer4ever

    soccer4ever New Member

    Jun 1, 2001
    USA
    Division 1 - MLS
    Division 2 - A-League, D3 and PDL merged (8 divisions x 6 teams)
    Division 3 - Those teams from D3 and PDL that do not merge

    Having a larger Division II league would cut down on travel costs because each division would have more teams.
     
  7. soccer4ever

    soccer4ever New Member

    Jun 1, 2001
    USA
    Right now, the

    A-League has 21 teams
    D3 has has 17 teams
    PDL has 45 teams

    A super A-League could be formed with 8 division x 8 teams (or 64 teams or at a minimum 6 divisionsx8 teams), with the remaining 19 (83-64) or 35 (86-48)teams forming a true Division III league.

    This would unify the grassroots soccer fans behind 1 league and would create the footprint soccer needs in the US to grow into a major sport.

    Any thoughts?
     
  8. panicfc

    panicfc Member+

    Dec 22, 2000
    In my chair, typing
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Sounds logical - won't happen.

    I think the original A-League teams will not agree as they still think that expensive travel is the way to go.
     
  9. soccer4ever

    soccer4ever New Member

    Jun 1, 2001
    USA
    All metro areas should have an MLS team.

    All large cities should have an A-League team.

    Only then will have soccer arrived in the US.
     
  10. soccer4ever

    soccer4ever New Member

    Jun 1, 2001
    USA
    There is a lot to be gained from a larger, well established league. Teams would have more leverage in negotiating stadium constructions, same for TV coverage, etc.
     
  11. panicfc

    panicfc Member+

    Dec 22, 2000
    In my chair, typing
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    A-League has 18 teams
    D3 has 18 teams
    PDL has 47 teams

    The trick is our geography.

    Teams west of Mississippi:

    Calgary Storm
    EL Paso
    Seattle Sounders
    Vancouver Whitecaps
    Arizona Sahuaros
    California Gold
    Northern Nevada Aces
    San Diego Gauchos
    Utah Blitzz
    Portland Timbers

    Teams South of DC

    Atlanta Silverbacks
    Charleston Battery
    Charlotte Eagles
    Hampton Roads
    Carolina Dynamo
    Greenville Lions
    Northern VA Royals
    Wilmington Hammerheads
    Richmond Kickers

    Midwest Teams:

    Cincinnatti
    Indiana
    Milwaukee
    Minnesota
    Pittsburgh
    Toronto ?
    Reading
    (needs St Louis, something near Detroit, Cleveland)

    Eastern

    Montreal
    Rochester
    Connecticut
    Long Island
    New Hampshire
    New Jersey
    New York
    South Jersey
    Westchester
    Western Mass

    The Wasteland:
    New Orleans
    Houston
    San Antonio
    Birmingham
    Mobile
    Jackson, MS
    Memphis
    Nashville
    Jacksonville
    Orlando
    Tampa

    All used to have teams, but fled with merger and more expensive travel.
     
  12. panicfc

    panicfc Member+

    Dec 22, 2000
    In my chair, typing
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Preaching to the choir.

    The old A-League teams will have fears that the merger will de-value thei name. Of course the fact that only in 7 markets does "A-League" mean didly.
     
  13. fanmaster

    fanmaster New Member

    Jun 28, 2002
    memphis, tn
    The Wasteland . . Funny. I live in Memphis. Let me shake your hand, you hit the nail on the head ;-)
     
  14. soccer4ever

    soccer4ever New Member

    Jun 1, 2001
    USA
    Sorry, my mistake.

    Even the 36-team A-League would be great. Some teams could be moved a little bit to have better geographical coverage.
     
  15. panicfc

    panicfc Member+

    Dec 22, 2000
    In my chair, typing
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    It's not a bad town. I would move their for the right job.

    How's the Memphis PDL team doing?
     
  16. fanmaster

    fanmaster New Member

    Jun 28, 2002
    memphis, tn
    Like all the other division winners, the Memphis PDL lost last weekend.

    Memphis has its good and bad points, the weather really stinks. I've just lived too many other places that have great weather compared to here. And yep I should not complain, since I live here by choice.
     
  17. panicfc

    panicfc Member+

    Dec 22, 2000
    In my chair, typing
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    How did you like my geographical divisional alignment?
     
  18. soccer4ever

    soccer4ever New Member

    Jun 1, 2001
    USA
    I like it a lot. However, 6 or 8 divisions would make more sense.
     
  19. panicfc

    panicfc Member+

    Dec 22, 2000
    In my chair, typing
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Is it the heat?

    How is the Mike Rose complex? Did they finish the stadium?
     
  20. panicfc

    panicfc Member+

    Dec 22, 2000
    In my chair, typing
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Good point, but it would require more teams.

    The best idea for each division to have 12 teams, playing a 22 game schedule (home and away) in 24 weeks. No back to back games allowed.

    Return to 3-1-0 for points.

    As for divisions:

    Far West - Southern- Atlantic (ACC area), Central, Northeast, and Pacific.

    We need teams in:
    San Francisco
    Sacremento
    Bring back Albequerque

    another in Los Angeles area.

    St Louis
    Louisville

    Bring up Des Moines

    okay I have to work now.
     
  21. soccer4ever

    soccer4ever New Member

    Jun 1, 2001
    USA
    Thanks for the new D3 website! I think it's great!

    http://www.d3soccer.com
     
  22. soccer4ever

    soccer4ever New Member

    Jun 1, 2001
    USA

    Excellent post! Thanks.
     
  23. panicfc

    panicfc Member+

    Dec 22, 2000
    In my chair, typing
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I do what I can.
     
  24. SueB

    SueB New Member

    Mar 23, 1999
    Waterbury, VT
    The PDL is an "officially-designated" ODP league, which means the NCAA looks the other way and college players are eligible to play with and against pros. Without the ability to field college players, most of those PDL teams would fold and the level of play would go in the crapper. I can see merging D3 and A-League, but there still needs to be a separate developmental league.
     
  25. panicfc

    panicfc Member+

    Dec 22, 2000
    In my chair, typing
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Good point Sue.

    I don't think we need to include the PDL teams at this time.
     

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