CONCACAF threatens to pull Mexico out of Copa Libertadores

Discussion in 'CONCACAF' started by Tick, Oct 11, 2002.

  1. sidspaceman

    sidspaceman Moderator
    Staff Member

    Feb 20, 2002
    AMÉRICA DE CALI
    Club:
    America de Cali
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    How jealous is the hierarchy of CONCACAF. Seems like they cannot handle Mexico striking out and doing anything on their own. Do they believe that the Mexican clubs will take the CONCACAF champions league more seriously if they can not play in the Copa Libertadores.
     
  2. Viking64

    Viking64 Member

    Feb 11, 1999
    Tarheel State
    I see it the other way.

    MLS teams can qualify if they don't have to pre-qualify. And he's right, any team that placed second does not deserve to have to play pre-qualifying games.

    here's to Mexico kick some SA butt.
     
  3. MasterShake29

    MasterShake29 Member+

    Oct 28, 2001
    Jersey City, NJ
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Maybe this is to avoid another KC-Moriella Champions Cup situation. No Liberadores qualifiers = more open dates for CONCACAF Champions Cup games.
     
  4. sidspaceman

    sidspaceman Moderator
    Staff Member

    Feb 20, 2002
    AMÉRICA DE CALI
    Club:
    America de Cali
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    The MLS does not have a contract with CONMEBOl so their chance to qualify is a moot point.
     
  5. Various Styles

    Various Styles Member+

    Mar 1, 2000
    Los Angeles
    Club:
    CD Chivas de Guadalajara
    The TFC's bad intentions are obvious. Especially considering the fact that the Mexican Clubs ardous pre qualifying is set by the MFL. The Conmebol never really set a pre qualifying standard for the MFL clubs. The TFC allready tried to take away Mexicos permanent guest status in Copa America and failed and now this. Most likely they are trying to muscle some money from the MFL... :mad:
     
  6. CrewDust

    CrewDust Member

    May 6, 1999
    Columbus, Ohio
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    It sounds like CONCACRAP wants direct qualifyers from Mexico. It may be the MFL who wants the qualifing systems so they can make the money off of it.. For once I see some logic in what Blazer wants. Mexican clubs have shown they are as good as any club in South America and they should be treated as such.
     
  7. EvilRick

    EvilRick New Member

    Jun 4, 2000
    Guadalajara
    Club:
    CD Chivas de Guadalajara
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    Dear CONCACA,
    Take your filthy paws off of a good thing.

    Sincerely

    The FMF
     
  8. Various Styles

    Various Styles Member+

    Mar 1, 2000
    Los Angeles
    Club:
    CD Chivas de Guadalajara
  9. Don Boppero 3000

    Don Boppero 3000 DNALMQNLGLLMX!

    Jan 15, 2001
    The Fullerton Hotel Chicago
    Club:
    Club América
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    Nice pic!

    Why the hell don't Mexicans run the show in CONCACAF?
     
  10. deejay

    deejay Member+

    Feb 14, 2000
    Tarpon Springs, FL
    Club:
    Jorge Wilstermann
    Nat'l Team:
    Bolivia
    Re: Nice pic!

    Nobody lets them. They're too big and have invested interests that are way too large. So since Caribean and Central American countries have a vote just like Mexico, Mexico is shunted aside.

    Same thing happens in CONMEBOL, Argentina and Brazil will never run the show. The other countries won't let them.
     
  11. condor11

    condor11 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Apr 2, 2002
    New Zealand
    Re: Re: Nice pic!

    conmebol dosnt screw around bra and arg
    like concacaf does to mexico
     
  12. Juan Luis Guerra

    Juan Luis Guerra Red Card

    Jun 11, 2001
    New York City

    Again, you are confusing apples with oranges. I read the article. I think that the whole idea is to have Mexican clubs qualify directly and not eliminating themselves with a 4th division Venezuelan club.
     
  13. condor11

    condor11 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Apr 2, 2002
    New Zealand
    actually mexico plays agaisnt venezuela 1st division teams
     
  14. Juan Luis Guerra

    Juan Luis Guerra Red Card

    Jun 11, 2001
    New York City
    I know, but only in paper. But in reality we know that Venezuelan's league is the worst among in Commebol
     
  15. So innocent, so innocent its anyone who believes in Warner G...SS. The MFL had already tried to have a berth to the Libertadores Cup without the
    pre-libertadores, but in words of the CONMEBOL: the Tournament its just for CONMEBOL teams. AND WARNER KNOW THIS!!!!

    Does anyone think that if we invite Joe Republic to the "pre-pre" Warner can change his position?
     
  16. sidspaceman

    sidspaceman Moderator
    Staff Member

    Feb 20, 2002
    AMÉRICA DE CALI
    Club:
    America de Cali
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    If you has bothered to read what I wrote in the Mexican forum about what CONCACAF leadership is really trying to do instead of making personal attacks you would understand my post.
     
  17. condor11

    condor11 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Apr 2, 2002
    New Zealand
    thats why the current sytem works so well

    mexico gives money to venezuela wich helps them make their league better

    and mexico benefits by taking part in a serious comp

    why fix something that isnt broken?
     
  18. sidspaceman

    sidspaceman Moderator
    Staff Member

    Feb 20, 2002
    AMÉRICA DE CALI
    Club:
    America de Cali
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    Because the powers that be in CONCACAF don't like the FMF.
     
  19. Monkeyboy2000

    Monkeyboy2000 Member

    Jan 27, 2000
    San Fran Bay Area
    Club:
    CDSC Cruz Azul
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    amen brother.

    They do like the FMF money though, and they'll do whatever they can to get more of it.
     
  20. efernandez9

    efernandez9 Member

    Jun 6, 1999
    Joe Pool Lake
    is not that much money.....in today's futbol world


    1 to 5 million for the rights to playoff vs. top 2 teams in venalandia, the one mil goes to the federation, for player development and more....


    the agent with the rights to the deal makes the money back with the usa games (laz and chicago or houston)
     
  21. sidspaceman

    sidspaceman Moderator
    Staff Member

    Feb 20, 2002
    AMÉRICA DE CALI
    Club:
    America de Cali
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    It might not be that much in the rest of the futbol world but when you consider how much CONCACAF paid the teams in the Champions league it is a lot of money. I believe there was no prize money for the teams in the Champions League.
     
  22. Monkeyboy2000

    Monkeyboy2000 Member

    Jan 27, 2000
    San Fran Bay Area
    Club:
    CDSC Cruz Azul
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    Well, it took a third party to offer the money to the Venezuelan Federation to get the Mexican teams into the Libertadores. The FMF could have done it, CONCACAF could have done it, yet nobody actually ponied up the cash. Maybe the amounts are not comparatively large but nobody was lining up to pay them.

    I think CONCACAF paid their Champion's League champ 100,000.

    I agree with sidspaceman, CONCACAF has a lot of other things to worry about than this. How about TV deals for their Champions League ?
     

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