CONCACAF Rankings Thread

Discussion in 'CONCACAF' started by JYDA, Sep 15, 2010.

  1. adamsstanstansadams

    adamsstanstansadams New Member

    Ny Red Bulls
    United States
    Nov 24, 2021
    Aren't elo rankings better?
    World Football Elo Ratings

    According to elo, concacaf has three top 32 teams, asia has 2 or 3 and africa has 1 or 0(japan and algeira tied for 32nd). Us, Mexico and Iran are in the top 20.
     
  2. edcalvi

    edcalvi Moderator
    Staff Member

    Olimpia
    Guatemala
    May 1, 2005
    US
    No ranking methodology is perfect but I find these ELO rankings much more accurate, IMHO.
     
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  3. EvanJ

    EvanJ Member+

    Manchester United
    United States
    Mar 30, 2004
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    There were not many games, so not many changes in the December 2021 FIFA Rankings. The only changes in the Top 10 in Concacaf were USA up 1 to 11th, and El Salvador down 1 to 70th.
     
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  4. EvanJ

    EvanJ Member+

    Manchester United
    United States
    Mar 30, 2004
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  5. EvanJ

    EvanJ Member+

    Manchester United
    United States
    Mar 30, 2004
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Here are the Top 10 in Concacaf in the February 2022 FIFA Rankings:

    12. Mexico (up 2, up 1 in Concacaf)
    13. USA (down 2, down 1 in Concacaf)
    33. Canada (up 9 to their best ranking ever)
    42. Costa Rica (up 7)
    62. Jamaica (down 5)
    63. Panama (even)
    70. El Salvador (even)
    78. Honduras (down 2)
    80. Curacao (even)
    87. Haiti (even)
     
  6. devioustrevor

    devioustrevor Member

    Jun 17, 2007
    Napanee, Ontario
    Club:
    Toronto FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Canada
    Isn't Canada up 7, I could swear they were 40th last month.
     
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  7. EvanJ

    EvanJ Member+

    Manchester United
    United States
    Mar 30, 2004
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    You're right.
     
  8. EvanJ

    EvanJ Member+

    Manchester United
    United States
    Mar 30, 2004
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Here are the Top 10 in Concacaf in the February 2022 FIFA Rankings:

    9. Mexico (up 3, even in Concacaf)
    15. USA (down 2, even in Concacaf)
    31. Costa Rica (up 11, up 1 in Concacaf)
    36. Canada (down 5, down 1 in Concacaf)
    61. Panama (up 2, up 1 in Concacaf)
    64. Jamaica (down 2, down 1 in Concacaf)
    74. El Salvador (down 4, even in Concacaf)
    79. Curacao (up 1, up 1 in Concacaf)
    82. Honduras (down 4, down 1 in Concacaf)
    90. Haiti (down 3, even in Concacaf)

    Costa Rica passed Canada for third. The bottom Octagonal team fell below a team not in the Octagonal. The 35 teams combined to fall 9 spots, and 7 of that came from 7 teams being below Cook Islands, who played and re-entered in 190th after dropping out due to inactivity.
     
  9. Paul Calixte

    Paul Calixte Moderator
    Staff Member

    Orlando City SC
    Apr 30, 2009
    Miami, FL
    Club:
    Orlando City SC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Do you happen to know if anyone's calculated the Concacaf MNT ranking after this window? To figure out what the CNL pots will look like....
     
  10. newtex

    newtex Member+

    May 25, 2005
    Houston
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    The CONCACAF rankings should be released on April 1.
    I have not seen a projection.
     
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  11. IASocFan

    IASocFan Moderator
    Staff Member

    Aug 13, 2000
    IOWA
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    Nat'l Team:
    United States

    9 Mexico 1658.82 1647.9 10.92
    15
    USA 1633.72 1643.34 -9.62
    31 Costa Rica 1503.09 1464.06 39.03
    38 Canada 1479 1497.82 -18.82

    61 Panama 1382.79 1375.56 7.23
    64 Jamaica 1378.75 1378.62 0.13
    74 El Salvador 1331.65 1346.04 -14.39

    79 Curaçao 1298.39 1298.39 0.00

    82 Honduras 1289.47 1303.96 -14.49
    90 Haiti1261.86 1268.05 -6.19
    103 Trinidad and Tobago 1203.78 1205.99 -2.21
    118 Guatemala 1147.85 1138.4 9.45

    127 Antigua and Barbuda 1131.07 1131.07 0.00
    141 Suriname 1073.39 1077.57 -4.18
    142 St. Kitts and Nevis 1072.3 1077.76 -5.46
    144 Nicaragua 1062.21 1062.21 0.00

    155 Dominican Republic 1029.42 1029.42 0.00
    163 Barbados 995.94 995.94 0.00
    167 Bermuda 982.43 982.43 0.00
    170 Grenada 968.49 974.03 -5.54

    172 Puerto Rico 962.77 962.77 0.00
    173 Belize 962.21 967.42 -5.21
    174 Guyana 961.07 958.87 2.20
    175 St. Vincent and the Grenadines 960.71 960.71 0.00

    176 St. Lucia 953.45 953.45 0.00
    177 Cuba 950.91 948.96 1.95
    178 Montserrat 950.71 950.71 0.00
    184 Dominica 916.72 916.72 0.00

    195 Cayman Islands 873.64 873.64 0.00
    200 Aruba 859.97 859.97 0.00
    201 Bahamas 858.5 858.5 0.00
    206 Turks and Caicos Islands 839.84 839.84 0.00

    208 US Virgin Islands 816.13 816.13 0.00
    209 British Virgin Islands 812.94 812.94 0.00
    210 Anguilla 792.34 792.34 0.00
     
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  12. newtex

    newtex Member+

    May 25, 2005
    Houston
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
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  13. EvanJ

    EvanJ Member+

    Manchester United
    United States
    Mar 30, 2004
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Cuba is 26th in Concacaf in the FIFA Rankings and 13th in Concacaf in the Concacaf Rankings if you take out Martinique because they're not in the FIFA Rankings.
     
  14. EvanJ

    EvanJ Member+

    Manchester United
    United States
    Mar 30, 2004
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Here are the Top 10 in Concacaf in the June 2022 FIFA Rankings:

    12. Mexico (down 3, even in Concacaf)
    14. USA (up 1, even in Concacaf)
    34. Costa Rica (down 3, even in Concacaf)
    43. Canada (down 5, even in Concacaf)
    61. Panama (even, even in Concacaf)
    62. Jamaica (up 2, even in Concacaf)
    71. El Salvador (up 3, even in Concacaf)
    80. Honduras (up 2, up 1 in Concacaf)
    84. Curacao (down 5, down 1 in Concacaf)
    87. Haiti (up 3, even in Concacaf)

    Concacaf teams have a mean rank of 137.5. The mean rank of 211 teams is 106th. Concacaf has 11 teams (31.4 percent) in the top half.
     
  15. jared9999

    jared9999 Member+

    Jan 3, 2005
    Naucalpan Estado de Mex
    Club:
    Club América
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    Costa Rica ahead of Canada :cautious:
     
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  16. EvanJ

    EvanJ Member+

    Manchester United
    United States
    Mar 30, 2004
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Here are the Top 10 in Concacaf in the October 2022 FIFA Rankings (the changes are compared to August 2022 that nobody posted):

    13. Mexico (down 1)
    16. USA (down 2)
    31. Costa Rica (up 3)
    41. Canada (up 2)
    60. Panama (up 1)
    64. Jamaica (down 2)
    74. El Salvador (up 3)
    80. Honduras (even)
    86. Curacao (down 2)
    87. Haiti (up 1)

    None of the Top 10 moved within Concacaf. Trinidad and Tobago in 104th is the only other team in the top half. 11 of 35 teams (31.4 percent) are in the top half.
     
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  17. devioustrevor

    devioustrevor Member

    Jun 17, 2007
    Napanee, Ontario
    Club:
    Toronto FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Canada
    Canada has only been "Good" for about 2-3 years. I think the FIFA coefficient is based on like 4 years.
     
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  18. EvanJ

    EvanJ Member+

    Manchester United
    United States
    Mar 30, 2004
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The FIFA Rankings used to be based on four years. Now they are like ELO where every game transfers X points from one team to another. That type of rating is not based on a fixed number of years. The flaw in the FIFA Rankings is that X is too low, so games do not cause as much change as they should.
     
  19. EvanJ

    EvanJ Member+

    Manchester United
    United States
    Mar 30, 2004
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Here are the Top 10 in Concacaf in the Decemer 2022 FIFA Rankings:

    13. USA (up 3, best ranking since February 2022)
    15. Mexico (down 2)
    32. Costa Rica (down 1)
    53. Canada (down 12, worst ranking since August 2021)
    61. Panama (up 1)
    64. Jamaica (even)
    74. El Salvador (even)
    81. Honduras (down 1)
    86. Curacao (even)
    87. Haiti (even)

    Trinidad and Tobago is the only other team in the top half. 24 teams (68.6 percent) are in the bottom half. 18 teams (51.4 percent) are in the bottom 46 of 211. The mean Concacaf team dropped 1.05 points, and 24 teams did not play, so did not change their points. USA passing Mexico was the only move within Concacaf.
     
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  20. drt2k3

    drt2k3 Member

    Jul 1, 2005
    Wilmington, NC
    Club:
    Wilmington H.
    March Rankings are out.

    These will be used for the next Nations League

    1 Mexico 1,939
    2 United States 1,919
    3 Costa Rica 1,796
    4 Canada 1,743
    5 Panama 1,695
    6 Haiti 1,482
    7 Jamaica 1,479
    8 Guatemala 1,405
    9 Honduras 1,403
    10 El Salvador 1,330
    11 Trinidad & Tobago 1,254
    12 Martinique 1,246
    13 Curacao 1,171
    14 Cuba 1,176
    15 French Guiana 1,086
    16 Suriname 1,079
    17 Nicaragua 1,067
    18 Guyana 994
    19 Guadeloupe 966
    20 Antigua and Barbuda 949
    21 St. Kitts & Nevis 923
    22 Dominican Republic 913
    23 Bermuda 863
    24 St. Lucia 795
    25 Grenada 791
    26 Puerto Rico 790
    27 Montserrat 780
    28 St. Vincent & the Grenadines 726
    29 Belize 715
    30 Barbados 681
    31 Bonaire 627
    32 Dominica 572
    33 Aruba 564
    34 Bahamas 530
    35 Turks and Caicos Islands 461
    36 Cayman Islands 435
    37 Sint Maarten 413
    38 Saint Martin 377
    39 Anguilla 224
    40 US Virgin Islands 193
    41 British Virgin Islands 163
     
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  21. HomietheClown

    HomietheClown Member+

    Dusselheim FC 1971
    Sep 4, 2010
    Club:
    --other--
    Crazy for me to think that Guatemala is ahead of Honduras and El Salvador.
     
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  22. edcalvi

    edcalvi Moderator
    Staff Member

    Olimpia
    Guatemala
    May 1, 2005
    US
    These are Concacaf's in-house rankings so they're different from the actual FIFA rankings.
     
  23. drt2k3

    drt2k3 Member

    Jul 1, 2005
    Wilmington, NC
    Club:
    Wilmington H.
    It wasn't too long ago that Honduras at the 4 spot on lockdown
    Now they are 9th.

    Rough stretch for them
     
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  24. EvanJ

    EvanJ Member+

    Manchester United
    United States
    Mar 30, 2004
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Here are the Top 10 in Concacaf in the April 2023 FIFA Rankings:

    13. USA (even)
    15. Mexico (even)
    39. Costa Rica (down 7)
    47. Canada (up 6)
    58. Panama (up 3)
    63. Jamaica (up 1)
    75. El Salvador (down 1)
    80. Honduras (up 1)
    87. Haiti (even)
    88. Curacao (down 2)

    Trinidad and Tobago is the only other team in the top half. 11 teams (31.4 percent) are in the top half. Cuba in 165th is the median Concacaf team. The median of all 211 teams is 106th.
     
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  25. drt2k3

    drt2k3 Member

    Jul 1, 2005
    Wilmington, NC
    Club:
    Wilmington H.
    Mexico has a death grip on the CONCACAF rankings. Still #1 after their latest NL loss to USMNT
     

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