CONCACAF 2022 U20/U23 Championships Tournament Thread

It's very on brand for USMNT twitter for Quinn Sullivan to outplay Clark and Luna all tournament but not be in the lineup.

 

Every good team has that game. We tied Canada! Canada!

 

Has there ever been a situation where two brothers played together (not just rostered) on the WC or in the Olympics?

None are coming to mind right now.

 

Starting to wonder if this best thing to come from this cycle so far is the emergence of Mikey Varas. Could he be the future replacement for Berhalter?

"my purpose is to advance these players (professionally)" .....

 

Why does Concacaf use its U20 championship to qualify for the U23 Olympics? The other confederations run separate U19/20 and U21/23 championships.

 

The gap between youth and the senior team, or professional coaching, is pretty large. Varas might be a great coach, but like when people were stumping hard for Tab, there's a huge risk there.

 

My understanding is that it was done this cycle as a cost-saving move for federations, given COVID.

 

In the records, I see six pairs of brothers who have played in the same game for the USMNT, but none of those were in the World Cup or Olympics. The six pairs are Otto and Rolf Decker (1953), Angelo and Paul DiBernardo (1985), Henry and Charlie McCully (1975), Louie and George Nanchoff (1978 and 1979), Ken and Steve Snow (1988) and Archie and Tom Stark (1925).

 

Also while the U-20 WC roster size is 21, 3 spots have to go to GKs. We usually pick the 3rd GK from the next cycle, Brady Scott in 17' and David Ochoa in 19'.

 

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Also love the very reactionary Aaronson over Pepi choice.

 

That wasn't a bad team at all and they should've been through to the knockouts but, I think it was Holden, made a pointless foul on the Dutch during the third minute of injury time, they scored a miracle goal, and we went from being on 6 points after two matches to being on 4 instead, a total disaster, especially after we lost the following match against Nigeria.

At the time I was just beyond infuriated, so frustrated, I just had no idea, at all, that US Soccer was about to produce two years of spectacular moments, followed by a slow and then very sharp decline for a decade, what a journey 2008 to the present has been.

 

We also got a red card early in that match in Nigeria that really did us in.

 

Its rare enough for two brothers to both play for USYNTs at different times. Jamar and DeMarcus Beasley, for instance.

I always make the mistake of thinking Ed Souza and John Souza on the 1950 team were brothers. They were somehow both from Fall River, Massachusetts, and on the same club team, but not related.

 

We Olympic qualified for France 2024 and automatically as host in 2028

We WCQ for 2022 and automatically for 2026 as host

Oh, and lets not forget the Women who should qualify for 2023 WWC , 2024 Olympics and host in 20028..

Good times for US Soccer with lots of youth in the pipeline
Let's make it happen both on and off the field, off the field being let's get a lot more Americans interested in our game since these are the big events

 

Likewise, Pukstas had a great match vs. Cuba, and then a poorer match vs. CR while he was injured, and the Twitter drops him from the squad.

 

You know nuthin' Ken Snow!

 

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It doesn't seem surprising. At that time in Fall River, Portuguese names like Souza were more common than Smith.

 

We have examples of frickin' twin brothers in which one is an elite player and one doesn't get there. James and Willl Sands.

It's hard to get to that elite level. Paxten and Brenden Aaronson seem on the path to play with each other on a national team. It would be cool to seem them both on that Olympic team.

But anyway, lots of brothers at the FCD academy. We do have an example right now of two USYNT brothers from that academy. Nico and Antonio Carrera have both now played at a youth World Cup for the US. That's rare enough.

 

They've got a looooong way to go. This feels much more like a one-off, and frankly YNT success doesn't exactly translate to the Senior level particularly well at the best of times.

Good tournament, to be sure. And qualifying for both the U20 WC and 2024 Olympics is going to get some exposure for kids that probably wouldn't get much otherwise. But the Dominican program isn't even particularly strong within the Caribbean, let alone CONCACAF as a whole, so there's quite a long way to go yet.

 

I expect the Dominican Republic to do a bit of an "El Salvador" where they put out a wide net globally for talent with DR-heritage. The Olympics can be a huge carrot for players. It's a little like when the US qualified for the 1990 WC (followed by auto qualification for 1994). A lot of "passport Americans" came out of the woodwork and helped triggered an openness to foreign-developed talent (to an extent, any way).

They have a leg up on ES by qualifying for the 2 tourneys, but also have a handicap as soccer isn't their most popular sport. Perhaps those MLB-playing Dominicans have soccer-playing sons.

But they have already been recruiting quite a bit in the US and elsewhere, both for their men's and women's teams. It seems to have given them a jump-start. to relevance in Concacaf. That may become the template for nations struggling to compete with domestic-only talent. The increase in young talent in the US & Canada can help a lot of countries get some level of success.

 

Quinn Sullivan's little brother, Cavan, could play with his brother at some point.

 

How is Gio's little brother doing?