Re: Colombia -- grupo de muerte? ¿asi quedó el grupo? no hay mas de otra, ganarle a Paraguay, USA, y Argentina para quedar de primeros.
Re: Colombia -- grupo de muerte? I don't agree with colombo. I think our group and Brazil's group are the same. Brazil Argentina are almost the same, Mexico Chile & Ecuador are no stronger then Colombia, Paraguay and USA. I think it'll gonna be great tournament, I just hope that all the teams will come with their strongest squads.
Re: Colombia -- grupo de muerte? arg = brasil col > ecuador para > chile USa > mexico so who has a harder group???
Re: Colombia -- grupo de muerte? mannnn this is actually great from a nuetral footballing point of view| i mean we should be in store for some top quality football here hopefully our wonderful nation will do well especially if we can get a good result against ARGENTINA cmonnnn VAMOS COLOMBIA!!! im ********in pumped jaja
Re: Colombia -- grupo de muerte? Sorry mi amigo, but i slightly disagree w u: Brasil = Argentina Ecuador > Colombia Chile < Paraguay Mexico = USA Conclusion: groups are equally tough. Prediction: Brazil-Mexico / Argentina - Paraguay will qualify to next round I do not know about 3rd places though.
Re: Colombia -- grupo de muerte? hey chivas whens the last time mexico beat colombia???? u guys couldnt beat our sub 20 that lost to panama 2x in copa oro.... and ecuador is only a good team at home away they suck...
Re: Colombia -- grupo de muerte? Acuerdense que toca mirar todos los grupos, porque tambien pasan los dos mejores terceros. Lo unico Claro es que a Uruguay le regalaron la clasificacion desde ya, porque esta en un grupo muy debil, y aunque pierda con Venezuela ambos, Charruas y Vinotintos deben ganar sus otros dos compromisos.. Grupo A Venezuela 7pts Uruguay 7pts Perú 3pts -5 Bolivia 0pts Grupo B Brasil 7 pts les gana a Ecu, Chi, se enreda con Mex. Chile 6 pts Mexico 2 pts Ecuador 1 pt. Grupo C Argentina 5 pts le gana a USA, empata los otros dos Colombia 5 pts le gana a Paraguay, empata los otros dos Paraguay 3 pts -1 le gana a USA USA 2 pts Incluso si Colombia quedara con los ptos de Paraguay, pasariamos a la siguiente ronda, de premio tendriamos posiblemente a Venezuela. Si pasamos segundos nos veriamos con Brasil o con Uruguay.
Re: Colombia -- grupo de muerte? Group is TOUGH. Paraguay is tough, Argentina is brutal, the US is tough. Great test for Pinto and the seleccion.
Re: Colombia -- grupo de muerte? Argentina, Paraguay, y USA son equipos diferentes, si, pero que nos complican......si no nos ponemos las pilas, quedamos por fuera. no creo que mexico se quede por fuera, ese equipo le daña el caminado a uno de su grupo, y pasa ya sea segundo o tercero.
Re: Colombia -- grupo de muerte? yo creo que cada grp esta muy nivelado el de venezuela, todos de su nivel! el de brazil...cualquier cosa puede pasar con chile y sorpresas de Ecuador el de argentina/colombia.....no se sabe como llegaran los cafeteros, USA muy fisico y paraguay que no afloja delante de nadie (somos los 4th en papel?) en que ciudad seran los de colombia?
Re: Colombia -- grupo de muerte? I have to say, this may be the best Copa America in the last 15 years. Also, the fact that CONMEBOL finally decided to make the CA a 4 year tournament to make it "special" is going to only add to the tourney! VAMOS COLOMBIA
Re: Colombia -- grupo de muerte? this is very tough group but as much as we can eliminated after the first round, we also can qualify from the first place. our group in the Copa 1999 wasn't easy as well but we won all the games, including the 2nd match vs. Argentina, on July 4th 1999, 3:0. this time the 2nd match is going to be also vs. Argentina, on July 2nd, the memorial day of Andres Escobar. I hope that Pinto will invite the best squad of us, we have very talented players, but Pinto needs to change our stratagy. play more on the flanks, not just through the middle. I hope that all the teams will bring their strongest squads, to bring this tournament the glory it had on the early 90's....I'm counting on our boys, who can obviously play much better. this is very important preperation becouse I dont think I can tolerate another WC elimination.
Re: Colombia -- grupo de muerte? Paraguay empezamos: (no se quien sera el "local" para el partido) Colombia - Paraguay Colombia - Argentina Colombia - USA
Re: Colombia -- grupo de muerte? GRUPO C Sedes: Barinas, Maracaibo y Barquisimeto. 1. Argentina 2. Paraguay 3. Colombia 4. Estados Unidos Fechas: 28.06.07 (13) Maracaibo Paraguay-Colombia 28.06.07 (14) Maracaibo Argentina-Estados Unidos 02.07.07 (15) Barinas Estados Unidos-Paraguay 02.07.07 (16) Maracaibo Argentina-Colombia 05.07.07 (17) Barquisimeto Colombia-Estados Unidos 05.07.07 (18) Barquisimeto Argentina-Paraguay Cuartos de final 07.07.07 (19) Maracaibo 1 tercero - 2 grupo B 07.07.07 (20) San Cristóbal 1 grupo A - 2 tercero 08.07.07 (21) Maturín 1 grupo B - 2 grupo C 08.07.07 (22) Barquisimeto 1 grupo C - 2 grupo A la buena oportunidad es para el Mejor 3rd!!!!!!
Re: Colombia -- grupo de muerte? Funny thing,,,they said the same about us in el Mundial. I will give you this, our record in Copa America SUCKS!!! But I do think at this point colombia is not better than us, and we are very committed to achieving something this Copa America. Creo que tenemos un buen equipo y un buen criterio de lo que queremos. IMO i think both groups are similar. I would say, disregarding what happened with Venezuelas group which everyone saw coming, Its a very even Copa and that is gonna make it very interesting.
Re: Colombia -- grupo de muerte? not sure if ur mexican or ecuadorian.... but when does ecuador win away from home... how they finish last time??? u guys are bad, maybe worse than venezulea and peru.. only thing that saves u is Quito thats it and if u are better than us why do u need our players to make ur league better, and why do u need our coachs to qualify u??? in nuetral ground Ecuador is prob 8th-10th because at least boliva wins games away from home... and the WC colombia with a C team did just as good as u guys did against the same teams
Re: Colombia -- grupo de muerte? let me ask you this: if you guys stink in copa america, will your feds and peeps fire Suarez? I tend to to think so, as you did the same to Bolillo after the bad presentation in Peru 2003
Re: Colombia -- grupo de muerte? Remember, we didn't fire Bolillo. I know he got some pressure over the results but no fired him. He quit by his own decision. Obviously he felt this results did not represent what happened during the WC. I do think though in this case Suarez will try to do something new. I think as long as we dont look like fools again, we can be fine, I am certainly hoping something better and I think, continuidad con Suarez seria bueno. But then again, I am not Chiriboga.
Re: Colombia -- grupo de muerte? lo que yo recuerdo en el despido de bolillo, es que el decia a todo viento que su meta era el Mundial y los juegos de eliminatorias, antes y durante copa america peru Sin embargo la presentacion fue tan mala y la presion de ejecutivos y/o prensa en general fue tal, que no lo podian mantener en el puesto de un equipo perdedor - se necesitaba resucitar al equipo. Ojala las metas de Suarez sean mas altas en 2007\\ un empate con brazil y ganarle a mejico nos mostraria al verdadero Ecuador, pero coincido con la prensa colombiana: el grupo de la muerte le toco a suarez!
Re: Colombia -- grupo de muerte? Hard to forget. But I can asure you that this time we will not have Martin Palermo taking the penalties.
Re: Colombia -- grupo de muerte? ayer me acorde de Martin y su paso por esa copa america, viendo los dos penalties que boto el brazilero del arsenal! martin se asusto con ese ARQUERAZO que tenia al frente