Re: Amistoso: Colombia vs. Paraguay 9/9/2007 (r) aja porque un amistoso no es lo mismo que jugar una partido clasificatorio para un mundial etc etc... yo pues miro el ranking ni me hace feliz ni me hace triste... en realidad es lo que tu dices un campeonato dice quien es el mejor y punto
si alguien critica los FIFA ranks, solo vea la otra opcion: eloRankings.net, tiene a colombia de 19 y a paraguay de 28? estan mas locos que todos. Sin embargo se mantiene la diferencia entre paraguay y Colombia, solo en eso hay consistencia. Colombia no puede estar entre los 20 primeros del mundo, especialmente despues del desastre de copa america, solo ganamos amistosos y de locales! me quedo con la logica de FIFA
de todas maneras, es bueno ver a la seleccion en un buen puesto, o esque si no le importa de nada, fuera lo mismo ver a Colombia en el puesto 112?
a mi si mi importa, solo que creo que somos un equipo para estar entre el 24 y el puesto 32. con uruguay mas cerca de colombia y Paraguay con ecuador no tan lejos, a pesar de su fracaso vs honduras y copa america. eso si, si ganamos un par de partidos en eliminatorias debemos estar entre los 24 primeros....de perder? hay que salir de los primeros 32!
how can we better ranked than paraguay when they killed us 5-0 in a meaningful game, and they made the last two world cups and we havnt
Math is math, they lost their last three games....FIFA calculates math not what we feel is better based on who did what....
the score does not count...5-0 or 1-0 is the same you can argue that COLOMBIA should get bonus points for downing the confederation champs in copa america (even with scrubbs from the MLS).... ganarle a mejico y paraguay en amistosos debe de ser mejor que resultados negativos de paraguay vs venezuela y colombia....ahi esta la diferencia. pero estoy de acuerdo en que debemos estar muy cerca el uno del otro en los puestos 29/31
estoy 100% de acuerdo, estamos mas cerca con paraguay. Pero la gente sigue diciendo que les perdimos en la copa america y que eso, por el 5-0, significa que hemos bajado mucho por debeajo de ellos. Pues, en los ultimos tres encuentros de Colombia y Paraguay, les ganamos 2 veces, y ellos nos ganaron 1. Aunque sea competicion oficial de Copa America o Amistoso, partido espartido, y no fue que que paraguay cambio mucho la escuadra, porque era equipo similar en todos los 3 partidos. Hubo un partido pesimo, y la gente ya dise que somos una basura de seleccion. Y asi no es.
how is mexico rated higher than us when we beat them every time we play.... or how is scotland 14th when they havnet made a WC since I was born ??? Fifa ranking dont make sense why is Uruguay so high and so many Euro teams in the top 10? I think Colombia is like 17-22nd in the world personal, we just dont feel like playin when we need too dont get why ecuador is rated so low when they went 1 on 1 with england and i thought they were the better team even tho they lost and tied italy last yr.... and they are like 60th it is accurate by how they rate SA teams Brasil, Argentina, Uruguay, Colombia, Paraguay. Think those are the top 5 but u can argue 3-5 but those are the teams that should be going to the WC every time
La verdad del Ranking de la FIFA no me importa un comino... A ke nos sirve pensar ke estamos en el puesto numero 20 o 30 o 10 de esta lista?? Esto nos va a dar algun trofeo?? La verdad es ke en la copa del mundo hubo 32 equipos y nosotros no estubimos ahi.... Me importa un C*lo si para la FIFA estamos en el puesto 40 pero clasificamos al mundial del 2010 Pero si nos ponen en el numero 20 o 10 y no clacificamos al mundial a que nos sirve. Diganme estamos en el lugar 24 y Paraguay esta en el 31 es esta la realidad?? Pq Paraguay nos goleò en la CA y clasificò al mundial y nosotros no?? La realidad es ke el Ranking no sirve para nada sirven los partidos oficiales y sirven las copas los trofeos este Ranking no vale nada
using the rankings that were published after Copa America and the friendly matches that were subsequently played: Col 1 - 0 Mex Colombia received 518.805 points Col 2 - 2 Per Colombia received 143.08 points Col 1 - 0 Par Colombia received 496.86 points Colombia tallied 1158.745 points Par 1 - 1 Ven Paraguay received 141.12 points Par 2 - 3 Ven Paraguay received 0 points Par 0 - 1 Col Paraguay received 0 points Paraguay tallied 141.12 points I might be wrong, but not too wrong . before the newly released ranking's, Paraguay and Colombia were dead even in points, both ranked as #31. So obviously in such a situation if one of the teams does considerably better than the other, especially with such few number of games played and seven or eight teams with similar amount of pointsyou will see a major difference, hence Colombia's +7 rank ascent, and Paraguay's rank of #31 once again. Naturally, regional and oppositional strength are factors in FIFA's ranking system, and Europe's confederation is weighed the highest, Conmebol following close second. However CAF, CONCACAF and OFC all weigh the same and much lower than EUFA&CONMEBOL, So European teams, even their weak teams, have an inherent advantage over everyone else even before they hit the pitch. concordingly vis a vis ergo and other Matrix II words, these rankings are desgined to favor the Euro's on a macro level. BUT, as you so poignantly noticed ^_^, the regional rankings are certainly more accurate because when you take Europe out of the equation, the ranking's are fairerererrr within each individual confederation. you can go take a look at how they come up with the points on wikipedia, mine differ from the ones that appear on the FIFA/Coca-Cola World Ranking page b/c im sure they take another step that takes the all time number of points into consideration as to not allow the number of points a team gets over time out of control and so that one team does not jump in front of another by 50 spots and such
Thank you for the correction I only saw that movie once, so I can barely remember it now im going to go put on my Colonel Sanders suit, sit in a big black chair and play with a ball point pen.
en otras palabras, sin tanto mabo jambo perder con venezuela es MUY malo y ganarle a Mejico ayuda mucho en los rankings!
LOL that is exactly what i thought when i saw the second Matrix movie...my god where did KFC come out of no where in such a good movie...
Rankings for October... Pos. Country, Pts, Pos. up(down) 1 Argentina 1533 1 2 Brazil 1459 1 17 Uruguay900 2 25 Colombia 801 -1 26 Paraguay 799 5 45 Chile 644 2 56 Venezuela 560 2 59 Ecuador 517 -2 61 Peru 497-9 107 Bolivia 312 -17
damn, we had two ties in a WCQ and we moved down, maybe they phased out old results...if we would have won against Bolivia, I am sure we would have moved up three spots....
I'll take it as is. We're in 'good company' with the teams that I feel Colombia is on par with (Paraguay + Uruguay) -- then somewhat further : Chile.
ELO Rankings: 1 Brazil 2065 2 Argentina 2015 3 France 2005 4 Italy 1991 5 Netherlands 1951 6 Germany 1928 7 Spain 1919 8 England 1906 9 Czechia 1900 10 Romania 1897 11 Croatia 1889 12 Portugal 1864 13 Mexico 1863 14 Denmark 1802 15 Switzerland 1795 16 Greece 1793 17 Uruguay 1788 18 Sweden 1782 19 Colombia 1780 20 Russia 1778 22 Paraguay 1766 29 United States 1743 32 Chile 1738 45 Venezuela 1641 46 Honduras 1640 49 Ecuador 1634 51 Peru 1626 51 Canada 1626 54 Costa Rica 1618 65 Panama 1552 66 Bolivia 1549 70 Jamaica 1533 70 Haiti 1533 77 Guatemala 1503 80 Trinidad and Tobago 1483
me quedo con la logica de los Fifa ranks en october los the ELO estan locos poniendo a colombia en el Top 20! solo me parece que en fiFA....urus deben estar mas cerca de Paraguay, y ojala que de esta manera estemos dentro de 2 años para PODER clasificar
we are going to jump like 10 spots in the fifa rankings after this game we got 500 points for tyin brasil !! beating the #1 team in the world haha The thing that makes me mad is if we had used bustos from game 1 we'd have 12 points right now
K but I prefer if we are higher up than Fing US and Mexico..... I see us better than the US and on par with Mexico if not a little better and on par with Paraguay. That 5-0 was an end of an era for most our team and I can't thank Paraguay enough for that because if it wasnt for them Pinto wouldnt have changed his shit team and we would not have 8 points right now