College Clock Question

Discussion in 'Referee' started by khsoccergeek, Nov 21, 2004.

  1. khsoccergeek

    khsoccergeek New Member

    Jan 10, 2002
    West Virginia
    This situation happened in a NCAA Tournament game that I attended last week, and I wanted to get your opinion on this issue.

    West Virginia was coming down the field with mere seconds to go, down 2 goals to 1. Forward Laura Kane took a desparation shot that bounced off the crossbar; Marisa Kanela followed and tucked the ball away, three or four seconds after the stadium clock expired. However, the center referee had not blown the final whistle and did not do so until after the rebound was buried in the net.

    So, in a nutshell, my question is: what constitutes the end of a college women's soccer game-- the clock, or the center referee?

    Thanks for your time.
  2. XYZ

    XYZ New Member

    Apr 16, 2000
    Big Cat Country
    When the stadium clock expires the game is over. If the ball has not completely crossed the goal line, it is not a goal even if it was in flight when the stadium clock expired.

    In college the scoreboard clock is official and the game ends the instant the buzzer begins to sound. There must be a buzzer or something similar. There must also be a countdown (by the infamous 'countdown man') of the final ten seconds. BTW, it's not necessary that the crowd hear countdown man, but the countdown should be audible on the benches.
  3. Soccerbest7

    Soccerbest7 New Member

    Aug 16, 2004
    I've had this happen to me in HS. the buzzer went off but the ref didn't blow the whistle so the game goes on. Ref alwasy ahs authority over elcetronice devicec
  4. Statesman

    Statesman New Member

    Sep 16, 2001
    The name says it all
    Not in the NCAA. Look up the facts before making a statement like this.

    From the NCAA rulebook:

  5. MidwestRef

    MidwestRef New Member

    Feb 8, 2004
    In addition to the horn to signal the end of the half, the fourth and trail AR should be aware of a situation like this and be able to tell the center if the ball clearly did not cross the goal line before time expired.
  6. khsoccergeek

    khsoccergeek New Member

    Jan 10, 2002
    West Virginia
    I do not believe there was an audible horn.

    But that's not the point lol. Thank you for clearing up the issue.
  7. Spaceball

    Spaceball Member

    Jun 15, 2004
    I had this identical situation this year at the end of a match. The ball went out for a ck...I looked at the clock and noted that there were only a few seconds. The ball was crossed and bounced around before going in. I looked over my back and the clock was at 0:00 but no horn had gone off (though it had worked in the women's match before and the first half of that match). I consulted my AR's and the trail AR confirmed that he saw the clock go to 0:00 and then looked back to see the ball as it entered the goal. Therefore, we had visual proof that the clock reached 0:00 before the ball entered to goal.

    In this situation, the correct call is a goal! In college, the status of the clock means nothing. The game is over when a signal is given, either by the tiemkeeper via a horn or by a referee with a whistle. It is in exact contradiction with USSF where the half is over when the referee decides it is regardless of the signal. This was a great learning experience and we actually submitted to the rules interpreter for clarification.
  8. Laggard

    Laggard New Member

    May 23, 2001
    Beeswax Noneofyour
    I detest the use of a count down clock in a soccer game to decide when the game is over. I hate it enough that I won't watch college or HS play. It goes against all tradition.
  9. adamkliti

    adamkliti New Member

    Sep 10, 2011
    Chelsea FC
    I know this thread is pretty old, but I had a quick question regarding college soccer. Say the clock is stopped (due to a card or just a signal from the ref.) and the play following the stoppage is a throw-in. Does the clock restart once the ball is touched on the field after the throw-in or is it once the ref's whistle is blown to start play?

    Same goes for free kicks after a clock restarted once the whistle is blown...or once the first player touches the ball?
  10. DadOf6

    DadOf6 Member

    Jul 4, 2005
    Taylorsville, UT
    Real Salt Lake
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The clock starts when the ball is put into play. I believe that would be when it is thrown in or it is kicked and moves. It does not have to be touched to be in play.
  11. Law5

    Law5 Member+

    Mar 24, 2005
    Beaverton OR
    You are technically correct. In the real world, a lot of clock operators will start on the whistle, unfortunately, and most of us don't stop and make him reset the clock, although close to the end of the game it could make a difference.

    On my college men's game Saturday, the winning goal was scored with 12 seconds left on the clock. The losing team put eight players on the left side of the halfway line for the kickoff, hoping to draw all of the defenders that way and they passed the ball to a player on the opposite side. It didn't work but it was clear before the whistle that we were in for a hairy 12 seconds.
  12. JeffG

    JeffG Member

    Mar 9, 2005
    MN, USA
    I always tell my timekeepers that I stop the clock, but the players start it.

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