Coach Tracking Thread

Discussion in 'Colorado Rapids' started by JasonMa, Jun 2, 2018.

  1. Riccardo55

    Riccardo55 Member+

    Mar 11, 2001
    Denver
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Agreed Unkiemark, but as Rapids fans, two wins in a row, one on the road against a good team, makes us nearly wet ourselves, so we need to overreact to SOMETHING....
     
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  2. unkiemark

    unkiemark Member+

    Dec 23, 2003
    Boulder
    Totally understand. There are member of my family that are already wondering if the Casey is the answer.
     
  3. AlbertCamus

    AlbertCamus Member+

    Colorado Rapids
    Sep 2, 2005
    Colorado, USA
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    That'd be an intriguing butts-in-seats move and wouldn't even use a DP slot.
     
  4. JasonMa

    JasonMa Member+

    Mar 20, 2000
    Arvada, CO
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The great (in his own mind) Eric Wynalda led his team to a loss against an amateur side in the Open Cup last night. Meanwhile Las Vegas is a middle of the pack team in the USL so far this year. Not doing much to show he deserves a MLS job.
     
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  5. Centennial

    Centennial Member+

    Apr 4, 2003
    Centennial
    It’s going to be Robin Fraser
     
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  6. Dom. FC

    Dom. FC Member+

    May 10, 2004
    Central US
    Details are fuzzy with the passage of time but I remember getting his autograph at the Team of the Decade post match event (at 10 years in the league so 2006?) and he said when I thanked him "I always enjoy coming back to Colorado". IIRC he was in L.A. at the time and certainly could have taken a pass on the event -- so it seemed to ring true?
     
  7. unkiemark

    unkiemark Member+

    Dec 23, 2003
    Boulder
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  8. Paranoid Coyote

    Paranoid Coyote Member+

    Oct 21, 2007
    Memphis, TN
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
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  9. fortcollins

    fortcollins Member+

    St. Louis City SC
    Apr 12, 2006
    Fort Collins
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    But what about compared to . . .???
     
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  10. Centennial

    Centennial Member+

    Apr 4, 2003
    Centennial
    Compared to Hudson he is a god. Compared to Houghton a genius...
    compared to Gary Smith ... uhhh well you get the picture.
     
  11. JasonMa

    JasonMa Member+

    Mar 20, 2000
    Arvada, CO
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Season-by-season; Asterisks indicate years we missed the playoffs:

    1. 2016 - Mastroeni - 1.706
    2. 2002 - Hankinson - 1.534
    3. 2010 - Smith - 1.533
    4. 1999 - Mooch - 1.5
    4. 2013 - Pareja - 1.5
    6. 2011 - Smith - 1.441
    7. 2005 - Clavijo - 1.406
    8. 1998 - Mooch - 1.375
    9. 2004 - Hankinson - 1.367
    10. 2000 - Mooch - 1.344
    11. 2003 - Hankinson - 1.333
    11. 2009 - Smith - 1.333*
    13. 2006 - Clavijo - 1.28125
    14. 2008 - Clavijo/Smith - 1.267*
    15. 1997 - Mooch - 1.1875
    16. 2007 - Clavijo - 1.167*
    17. 2012 - Pareja - 1.08823*
    17. 2015 - Mastroeni - 1.08823*
    19. 2017 - Mastroeni/Cooke - 0.971*
    20. 2014 - Mastroeni - 0.941*
    21. 2018 - Hudson - 0.912*
    22. 1996 - Houghton/Wegerle - 0.906*
    23. 2001 - Hankinson - 0.885*
    24. 2019 - Hudson/Casey - 0.800

    All-Time Overall:


    1. Casey - 6 Games - 1.66
    2. Smith - 104 Games - 1.43
    3. Mooch - 128 Games - 1.41
    4. Hankinson - 114 Games - 1.29
    4. Pareja - 68 Games - 1.29
    6. Mastroeni - 124 Games - 1.20
    7. Clavijo - 114 Games - 1.18
    8. Houghton - 31 Games - 1.06
    9. Cooke - 12 Games - 0.92
    10. Hudson - 43 Games - 0.77
    11. Wegerle - 1 Game - 0.00


    Playoff series records:

    1. Smith 4-1 - .800 - Won MLS Cup
    2. Clavijo - 2-2 - .500
    3. Mastroeni - 1-1 - .500
    4. Mooch 2-4 - .333 - MLS Cup appearance
    5. Hankinson - 1-3 - .250
    6. Pareja - 0-1 - .000
    7. Houghton - Never qualified - N/A
    7. Wegerle - Never qualified - N/A
    7. Cooke - Never qualified - N/A
    7. Hudson - Never qualified - N/A
    7. Casey - Never qualified - N/A
     
  12. Riccardo55

    Riccardo55 Member+

    Mar 11, 2001
    Denver
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Reviewing the Rapids not-so-prestigious "Hall of Coaches" it is clear that if Casey continues to perform at 1.5+/game, PS would be nuts to let him go and hire a so-called hot young assistant elsewhere.
     
  13. Rod1916

    Rod1916 Member+

    Jun 17, 2012
    Colorado
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Then Frasier better close his deal quick or risk having an offer pulled. Hopefully CC will stay on as right hand assistant.

    Rod
     
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  14. Soaker888

    Soaker888 Member+

    Feb 21, 2012
    Denver
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    #214 Soaker888, Jun 2, 2019
    Last edited: Jun 2, 2019
    He's a Genius at not losing most every game he coaches. He's a fan of Klopp's style of coaching. He seems positive with the players. Locker room mood *must* be better under him. He's now leading the Rapids in a hot streak. He's still not the answer after Hudson however.

    Rapids have had "hot young hires" (read "inexperienced coaches") since Oscar Pareja. Pablo and Hudson were obvious bad choices, OP can be argued as such, though IMHO he had enough experience to be given a fair shot. I suppose the more Casey wins and draws the more enticing he looks, but the context of a team desperate for wins, an underperforming roster, and a bad coach fired should not be ignored. A halfway competent coach could have brought the Rapids up to a level of reasonable expectations. I like Casey and I think he could be a good coach. But he doesn't deserve the reins of a MLS club at this point. Experience, please. Period. Fraser isn't MLS head-coach proven, but he's got plenty to go on.

    I've run another extended absence from BS-Rapids recently, but are some people here still treating Wynalda as if he's a viable option for Rapids HC? Rehire Pablo instead if Wynalda is an actual consideration.
     
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  15. JasonMa

    JasonMa Member+

    Mar 20, 2000
    Arvada, CO
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    He does have 2 years as head coach of Chivas USA, which is more club head coach experience than any Rapids coach since Clavijo.
     
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  16. Soaker888

    Soaker888 Member+

    Feb 21, 2012
    Denver
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Ah yes. Totally forgot.
     
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  17. Rod1916

    Rod1916 Member+

    Jun 17, 2012
    Colorado
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    I figured you were making the argument being coach of the Chivas wasnt really MLS experience.
     
  18. JasonMa

    JasonMa Member+

    Mar 20, 2000
    Arvada, CO
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    So did I ;)
     
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  19. TheWarmBurger

    TheWarmBurger Member+

    Colorado Rapids
    United States
    Aug 7, 2018
    Arizona
    Boy you wanna talk about a dumpster fire? They were the epitome of the mls dumpster fire.

    Interestingly enough, Greg Vanney was an assistant there...and Bob Bradley (LAFC) and Wilmer Cabrera (Houston) were head coaches.

    Maybe that bodes well for Fraser after all lol
     
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  20. fortcollins

    fortcollins Member+

    St. Louis City SC
    Apr 12, 2006
    Fort Collins
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Another way to do the Casey v. Hudson comparison. If Casey isn't yet MLS head coach material, just what exactly was Hudson?????*

    Casey may not be ready for a fulltime gig yet, but his performance so far certainly will make him hot assistant coaching property. His stock has gone way up with the dramatic turnaround from on pace to be the worst team in league history to being at least a respectable opponent. He's shown a few things. First, he can assess talent. Second, he gets it on MLS tactics. Third, he has the respect of the players. Those qualities will take him far.

    Maybe most importantly, Casey has stopped the bleeding. The team's current form may well be more enticing to a coaching prospect that the unfulfilled hype with the record under Hudson.

    *My vote would be Kiwi rec league material, but hey.
     
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  21. MrPerfectNot

    MrPerfectNot Member+

    Jul 9, 2011
    Denver, CO
    Club:
    Everton FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    With the turnaround in the Rapids, think how much this is dropping Mr Hudson's stock these days as he presumably seeks a new gig....

    Yes, it's schaudenfreude and I will rot in hell, but I am willing to take the risk.
     
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  22. JasonMa

    JasonMa Member+

    Mar 20, 2000
    Arvada, CO
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Small sample size. If he loses next week that average will drop to 1.42. A 3 game losing streak would put him at 1.00.
     
  23. Centennial

    Centennial Member+

    Apr 4, 2003
    Centennial
    He was New Zealand ‘s national team coach.

    [emoji1787][emoji1787][emoji1787][emoji1787]
     
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  24. Paranoid Coyote

    Paranoid Coyote Member+

    Oct 21, 2007
    Memphis, TN
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Well, since we're piling on...can I add Hudson to my list of why Seattle sucks? :D
     
  25. Riccardo55

    Riccardo55 Member+

    Mar 11, 2001
    Denver
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    As a Rapid fan, I only get brief periods of success or optimism. Please wait to rain on my parade.....⚽️
    R
     

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